The new variant of Covid

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Still reckon the season will bet binned. The big problem if ppg is to be used - if enough games get played - is that there will be such a huge difference in the number of games each club had played. Already, some clubs are 3/4 games less than others.

If that gap widens to 5/6/7 games ppg is unworkable.
 

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Still reckon the season will bet binned. The big problem if ppg is to be used - if enough games get played - is that there will be such a huge difference in the number of games each club had played. Already, some clubs are 3/4 games less than others.

If that gap widens to 5/6/7 games ppg is unworkable.
Hmmm I’m starting to think at the very least it will get suspended.
 

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Totally agree there should be no more 2nd or sometimes 3rd bites of the cherry for those unable to fulfil a fixture.

Bite bite bite
 

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Still reckon the season will bet binned. The big problem if ppg is to be used - if enough games get played - is that there will be such a huge difference in the number of games each club had played. Already, some clubs are 3/4 games less than others.

If that gap widens to 5/6/7 games ppg is unworkable.
If it does in the next couple of weeks they will do what non league is set to do and scrap it I imagine. If you’ve played 35 games like last time fair enough but can’t see them doing it on teams playing 20-23 games.

I think lockdown will be tightened so it’s if elite football gets included.
 

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Here we go.

Scottish Cup and leagues below Premiership suspended for 3 weeks.
 

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And Celtic squad has to isolate after theiy trip to Dubai.
If the Scots FA had any sense they should award the 3 points to any team they were due to play in the isolation period, I mean that trip was pure stupidity
 

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Well think they agreed to it themselves which is the trouble.
 

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i am beginning to get a bit pessimistic about the effect of omicron. I feel the vaccine passports as a way to increase vaccination take up should have been done from July. It is probably late in the day now. I can see Covid spreading amongst the teams a lot very soon with more matches off. We could end up with behind closed doors games again. I hope not, but it feels like things are moving very quickly in the wrong way.
 

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It’s not the fans. They’re going to need a passport. It’ll be the players refusing to get vaccinated that’ll be the problem.

Precious little fuckwits.
 

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It’s not the fans. They’re going to need a passport. It’ll be the players refusing to get vaccinated that’ll be the problem.

Precious little fuckwits.
And then probably doing all sorts against the guidelines and recommend practices.

I did read they are only just bringing back the COVID regulations they had last season.

Trouble is no one has any real idea about how how affections and dangerous this new variant.

You get the usually various opinions with different extremes.
 
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Gobsmacked by EFL data that 25% of players do not intend to get vaccinated. I especially look forward to the games over Xmas, I suspect this year some of ours will be postponed. If a lot of Argo players are refusing to get vaccinated I would not be happy. There place of work has been an NHS vaccination centre since January!
 

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Not surprised at all that footballers would rather listen to what’s on social media than actual science, unfortunately. Their worlds are already bubbles before ‘bubbles’ became a covid related theme.

So there’s no surprise in how many games are being postponed currently. Hope they wise up before clubs start considering it a condition of employment.
 

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The NFL are considering allowing players who are vaccinated and asymptomatic to play in games going forward, surely that's the next step of "living with COVID", probably not just in football but in life generally too.

It seems like this variant is going to rip through the country and because of the slow rollout of boosters we're going to get hit by it realtively hard so unfortunately we're going to have to suck up losing some "freedoms" over the next few weeks, but the theory is it'll be over pretty quickly, and then we need to start working towards policies that enable those who have done everything they can to protect the public and end the pandemic by getting vaccinated to carry on as normal going forward, with a proper schedule of booster shots for the foreseeable that are sorted well before we get into December each year.

We can't continue to cancel everything because of the 20-30% of fuckwits who won't listen to qualified medical professionals, otherwise we might as well just shut the doors on everything for three months from December through February.
 

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The NFL are considering allowing players who are vaccinated and asymptomatic to play in games going forward, surely that's the next step of "living with COVID", probably not just in football but in life generally too.

It seems like this variant is going to rip through the country and because of the slow rollout of boosters we're going to get hit by it realtively hard so unfortunately we're going to have to suck up losing some "freedoms" over the next few weeks, but the theory is it'll be over pretty quickly, and then we need to start working towards policies that enable those who have done everything they can to protect the public and end the pandemic by getting vaccinated to carry on as normal going forward, with a proper schedule of booster shots for the foreseeable that are sorted well before we get into December each year.

We can't continue to cancel everything because of the 20-30% of fuckwits who won't listen to qualified medical professionals, otherwise we might as well just shut the doors on everything for three months from December through February.
Yes exactly this. I’m all in favour of boosters and respect the approach of general restrictions/distancing etc until all those who want/can have a booster have got one. But after that, we should say fuck it to the unvaccinated, open up everything and say it’s then down to personal responsibility rather than shutting down everything because 25% prefer to listen to Karen off Facebook than just about every medical professional in the world.
 

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Yes exactly this. I’m all in favour of boosters and respect the approach of general restrictions/distancing etc until all those who want/can have a booster have got one. But after that, we should say fuck it to the unvaccinated, open up everything and say it’s then down to personal responsibility rather than shutting down everything because 25% prefer to listen to Karen off Facebook than just about every medical professional in the world.
Who will you blame for lockdowns when everyone is vaccinated?
It is not the panacea that it is made out to be. You can still catch it, you can still spread it. Sage will still push for lockdowns for subsequent variants you can be sure. So in March, when the Estonian variant is discovered and then in may when the Slovakian variant emerges, and everyone is vaccinated, then what?
Better idea. Those that want to live their life in fear, go hide under the bed. I will live my life thank you.
And I am vaccinated before I am asked or labelled as an “anti vaccers”
 

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Who will you blame for lockdowns when everyone is vaccinated?
It is not the panacea that it is made out to be. You can still catch it, you can still spread it. Sage will still push for lockdowns for subsequent variants you can be sure. So in March, when the Estonian variant is discovered and then in may when the Slovakian variant emerges, and everyone is vaccinated, then what?
Better idea. Those that want to live their life in fear, go hide under the bed. I will live my life thank you.
And I am vaccinated before I am asked or labelled as an “anti vaccers”
I think we’re basically saying the same thing. I would blame the government for future lockdowns as I think it’d be stupid.
 

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I think we’re basically saying the same thing. I would blame the government for future lockdowns as I think it’d be stupid.

I think we will lockdown for January in the end but I agree you cant carry on like this every single year, obviously vaccines will improve and assuming the virus acts like any other virus it will mutate into a weaker virus like the Spanish Flu for example, all pandemics come to an end and usually after a couple of years.

We need to learn to live with it, travel is on its knees, hospitality is on its knees.
 

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The NFL are considering allowing players who are vaccinated and asymptomatic to play in games going forward, surely that's the next step of "living with COVID", probably not just in football but in life generally too.

It seems like this variant is going to rip through the country and because of the slow rollout of boosters we're going to get hit by it realtively hard so unfortunately we're going to have to suck up losing some "freedoms" over the next few weeks, but the theory is it'll be over pretty quickly, and then we need to start working towards policies that enable those who have done everything they can to protect the public and end the pandemic by getting vaccinated to carry on as normal going forward, with a proper schedule of booster shots for the foreseeable that are sorted well before we get into December each year.

We can't continue to cancel everything because of the 20-30% of fuckwits who won't listen to qualified medical professionals, otherwise we might as well just shut the doors on everything for three months from December through February.
Is it a slow roll-out of the boosters? I genuinely don't know, the figures seem fairly high at 25(?) million. I'm assuming you mean slow starting the booster programme? There definitely doesn't seem too much hesitation in dropping the time between jabs and now, to get more people through, you don't even have to wait after your jab, unlike the 15 mins you had to for 1st and 2nd ones.
 

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Gobsmacked by EFL data that 25% of players do not intend to get vaccinated. I especially look forward to the games over Xmas, I suspect this year some of ours will be postponed. If a lot of Argo players are refusing to get vaccinated I would not be happy. There place of work has been an NHS vaccination centre since January!
I was very surprised by that number, I knew they'd be a percentage who weren't wanting to be vaccinated but 25% is incredibly high. You wonder how many Clubs will go with a harder line with their vaccination status during transfers now and disregard a player who isn't.

I bet there are discussions behind the scenes about not including any unvaccinated players in who pick up Covid when requests are made to postpone a games.
 

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A lot of footballers are black. A lot of my friends are black and they are not vaccinated.
They won’t have it. does not matter what they are told they are adamant.
So, it will never change - it’s their choice. I’m very much pro choice.
So I doubt clubs will “go with a harder line” as they need those players. They yield the power. they can’t afford to lose them.
our forward line is all black, so we would be screwed.
when it subsides again, people will not be so bothered I guess.
 

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Is it because they think the NHS is racist which seemed to be the cause for the lack of trust in the BAME community when the vaccine first came out ?

I do agree at some point have to recognise COVID won’t just disappear and people need to work or have a life .

But there is a worrying increase atm which needs to be stopped .
 

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Sometimes society has to do things that people dont like. If the difference between the country getting back to relative normality or the lockdown, open, lockdown cycles we seem to be heading for I'm all for compulsory vaccines.
 

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Sometimes society has to do things that people dont like. If the difference between the country getting back to relative normality or the lockdown, open, lockdown cycles we seem to be heading for I'm all for compulsory vaccines.
I’m not for compulsory vaccines as that would only fuel the conspiracy theorists and make anti-vaxxers more ardent. I have no problem with them being a condition of employment when applying for certain jobs though (in the case of football that would mean no jab no big money move or contract offer).
 

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Am going today, but fully expect it will be the last home game on for a few weeks. Too many players are coming down with Covid, and some form of stronger restrictions are on the cards.

Be careful out there people.
 

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Our Boxing Day game is still going ahead as it stands. We have no positive Covid's after yesterday's round of testing and MK can currently fulfil the fixture as well.
 

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