The quality of this league.

[HertsWolf]

To be fair Hertswolf, I thought we didnt play to badly at yours, but just got undone by some super finishing. Adam Hammil had numerous chances to get us back in the game at 2-0, but i suppose it's all ifs & buts. Did you see us at New York? I know it was early on in the season, but it showed we had more than enough to be ok at this level.

I honestly think, we'll improve our side, and make another very good fist of staying in this division. As many have said, it is folly to pick relegation candidates at this stage. But for a bit of fun, i can see Charlton, Huddersfield & Leeds struggling this coming Season.

I didn't see the game, but it was specifically a match I quoted elsewhere as a game that Rotherham deservedly won. I think next season will be easier for you. I'll reserve judgement on who will stay up until later in the summer. Evans has passed on Hammill, hasn't he? I thought he played well for you....

 

[old parkender]

Your charm really never ends, does it?

You had to put up with that guy all last season HW? Jesus. My sympathies mate....

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Steve Evans
"Blackpool, Wigan and Millwall all got relegated with bigger budgets than us, especially the likes of Wigan and Millwall, so it doesn’t really come down to that".

Excuse me if I choose to ignore Evans comments on other clubs budgets, Wigan I'd accept but not Blackpool, let's wait til your accounts are released....

 

[HertsWolf]

You had to put up with that guy all last season HW? Jesus. My sympathies mate....

Last two seasons. He's an attention whore, blissfully unaware that everyone is laughing at him. It's fairly easy to wind him up and then watch the vitriol boil over into wild abuse and slightly odd insults and, as we've seen today, some fairly nasty stuff (on another thread).

Edit: Seems his posts there have now been pulled.

 

[old parkender]

Can imagine an extremely brutalised keyboard continually drenched in saliva and Farleys rusk crumbs....

 

[HertsWolf]

That was such a fine post, I have sampled it for my signature.

All I can say for now is Steve Evans - hahaha

I can GUARANTEE that SERNWA has absolutely NO idea what is wrong with the sentence in your signature.

 

[Gerry Gow]

He's either retarded or pissed. Coming from Rotherham might be a factor too!

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

That was such a fine post, I have sampled it for my signature.

All I can say for now is Steve Evans - hahaha

Do we really need to compare Steve Cotterill's mediocre carear with Evans'?

 

[Mr Elmo]

Do we really need to compare Steve Cotterill's mediocre carear with Evans'?

I really hope you aren't training to be an English teacher.

 

[Scrumpy]

:flint:

Do we really need to compare Steve Cotterill's mediocre carear with Evans'?

Assuming you mean "career" stats, then do we REALLY need to?

My answer to your question is NO. Bit of a curve ball to your original post I quoted and the answers are obvious without doing too much digging.

Why you're bringing it up about manager comparison I don't know.

If it's really something you want to invest time in, how about comparing club stature, value, desirability, honours, capacity (ours still to be further increased), youth provision, facilities, plus the board structure and power?

It's like a dick measuring contest and you're only showing yourself/your manager/club to be nothing better than a "chode" in comparison to my monster cock club/manager

Owned!

:flint::flint::flint:

 

[JJH]

Do we really need to compare Steve Cotterill's mediocre carear with Evans'?

If you insist.

In Steve Evans playing 'carear', Steve Evans played for 5 Scottish clubs, the biggest of which was St Johnstone. In the 168 appearances he made throughout his career, he scored 42 goals, making him a dead on 1 in 4 forward. Steve Cotterill, who was also a forward, made 87 appearances in his playing career, scoring 21 goals. This puts him just below a 1 in 4 Striker, but playing at a much better level than Evans, both from roughly the same period of time. Clubs Cotterill played for consist of Bournemouth, Brighton, and Wimbledon notably.

Going into managing careers, Cotterill has managed a range of very big clubs, such as Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth and Stoke City. Furthermore, he has also managed Notts County, Burnley, Cheltenham Town, Sligo Rovers, and now Bristol City. As a manager, Cotterill has won the FA Trophy, the Conference, and the Third Division PO all with Cheltenham. Cotterill also won L2 with Notts County, and has more recently won the double with Us, Bristol City. Individually, Cotterill has won 6 Manager of the Month awards, and last season won the Manager of the Year award. Focusing on Cotterill's life at the other end of the table, a Steve Cotterill managed team has never been relegated. Over his whole managerial career, Cotterill boasts a 42.50% win percentage.

Onto Evans, the teams he managed before Rotherham were Crawley Town, Stamford, and Boston United. Hardly strikes you as massive, but in that time, he has achieved winning the 'United Counties League Premier Division' with Stamford, as well as winning the 'Southern League Premier Division' with Boston, and has achieved two back to back promotions in his career, notably with Crawley from the Conference to L2, and then from L2 to L1 in 2010-12, and then did the same with Rotherham, but this time from L2 to the Championship from 2012-14. Evans has a win percentage of 43.6%.

It's for you to compare if you've bothered to read this far down, but Cotterill has much more experience in the higher leagues, and has spent a lot of time in the Championship, whereas last season was only Evans first. I'm not bigging up Cotterill to be the best thing since sliced bread, infact I was incredibly underwhelmed when he got the City job, but he's more than gained my respect with how he's transformed our club in such a short period of time, and it really has been one of his finest achievements.

 

[City169]

If you insist.

In Steve Evans playing 'carear', Steve Evans played for 5 Scottish clubs, the biggest of which was St Johnstone. In the 168 appearances he made throughout his career, he scored 42 goals, making him a dead on 1 in 4 forward. Steve Cotterill, who was also a forward, made 87 appearances in his playing career, scoring 21 goals. This puts him just below a 1 in 4 Striker, but playing at a much better level than Evans, both from roughly the same period of time. Clubs Cotterill played for consist of Bournemouth, Brighton, and Wimbledon notably.

Going into managing careers, Cotterill has managed a range of very big clubs, such as Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth and Stoke City. Furthermore, he has also managed Notts County, Burnley, Cheltenham Town, Sligo Rovers, and now Bristol City. As a manager, Cotterill has won the FA Trophy, the Conference, and the Third Division PO all with Cheltenham. Cotterill also won L2 with Notts County, and has more recently won the double with Us, Bristol City. Individually, Cotterill has won 6 Manager of the Month awards, and last season won the Manager of the Year award. Focusing on Cotterill's life at the other end of the table, a Steve Cotterill managed team has never been relegated. Over his whole managerial career, Cotterill boasts a 42.50% win percentage.

Onto Evans, the teams he managed before Rotherham were Crawley Town, Stamford, and Boston United. Hardly strikes you as massive, but in that time, he has achieved winning the 'United Counties League Premier Division' with Stamford, as well as winning the 'Southern League Premier Division' with Boston, and has achieved two back to back promotions in his career, notably with Crawley from the Conference to L2, and then from L2 to L1 in 2010-12, and then did the same with Rotherham, but this time from L2 to the Championship from 2012-14. Evans has a win percentage of 43.6%.

It's for you to compare if you've bothered to read this far down, but Cotterill has much more experience in the higher leagues, and has spent a lot of time in the Championship, whereas last season was only Evans first. I'm not bigging up Cotterill to be the best thing since sliced bread, infact I was incredibly underwhelmed when he got the City job, but he's more than gained my respect with how he's transformed our club in such a short period of time, and it really has been one of his finest achievements.

Also the job at Pompey was when they were so far up shit creek that his job was to cut the budget as much as possible, which he did

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

If you insist.

In Steve Evans playing 'carear', Steve Evans played for 5 Scottish clubs, the biggest of which was St Johnstone. In the 168 appearances he made throughout his career, he scored 42 goals, making him a dead on 1 in 4 forward. Steve Cotterill, who was also a forward, made 87 appearances in his playing career, scoring 21 goals. This puts him just below a 1 in 4 Striker, but playing at a much better level than Evans, both from roughly the same period of time. Clubs Cotterill played for consist of Bournemouth, Brighton, and Wimbledon notably.

Going into managing careers, Cotterill has managed a range of very big clubs, such as Nottingham Forest, Portsmouth and Stoke City. Furthermore, he has also managed Notts County, Burnley, Cheltenham Town, Sligo Rovers, and now Bristol City. As a manager, Cotterill has won the FA Trophy, the Conference, and the Third Division PO all with Cheltenham. Cotterill also won L2 with Notts County, and has more recently won the double with Us, Bristol City. Individually, Cotterill has won 6 Manager of the Month awards, and last season won the Manager of the Year award. Focusing on Cotterill's life at the other end of the table, a Steve Cotterill managed team has never been relegated. Over his whole managerial career, Cotterill boasts a 42.50% win percentage.

Onto Evans, the teams he managed before Rotherham were Crawley Town, Stamford, and Boston United. Hardly strikes you as massive, but in that time, he has achieved winning the 'United Counties League Premier Division' with Stamford, as well as winning the 'Southern League Premier Division' with Boston, and has achieved two back to back promotions in his career, notably with Crawley from the Conference to L2, and then from L2 to L1 in 2010-12, and then did the same with Rotherham, but this time from L2 to the Championship from 2012-14. Evans has a win percentage of 43.6%.

It's for you to compare if you've bothered to read this far down, but Cotterill has much more experience in the higher leagues, and has spent a lot of time in the Championship, whereas last season was only Evans first. I'm not bigging up Cotterill to be the best thing since sliced bread, infact I was incredibly underwhelmed when he got the City job, but he's more than gained my respect with how he's transformed our club in such a short period of time, and it really has been one of his finest achievements.

To simplify that Evans played more and score more in 7 years than what Cotterill did in 13 as a player.

As a manger Evans has a higher win rate and more promotions

So Evans was more successful as a player and is more successful as a manger.

 

[JJH]

To simplify that Evans played more and score more in 7 years than what Cotterill did in 13 as a player.

As a manger Evans has a higher win rate and more promotions

So Evans was more successful as a player and is more successful as a manger.

He played in the bottom leagues of Scotland, and is yet to manage a big club...

Neeeeeeexxxxxxxttttt.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

:flint:

Assuming you mean "career" stats, then do we REALLY need to?

My answer to your question is NO. Bit of a curve ball to your original post I quoted and the answers are obvious without doing too much digging.

Why you're bringing it up about manager comparison I don't know.

If it's really something you want to invest time in, how about comparing club stature, value, desirability, honours, capacity (ours still to be further increased), youth provision, facilities, plus the board structure and power?

It's like a dick measuring contest and you're only showing yourself/your manager/club to be nothing better than a "chode" in comparison to my monster cock club/manager

Owned!

:flint::flint::flint:

Owned? You posted 'Steve Evans' with a laughing emoji in an attempt to ridicule a man who is factually more successful than your own manger as a player an manager.

As for all that other nonsense you want to compare, your club is situated in one of the bigger cities in England with no completion for fans, yet you've never been in the premier league and always seem to bottle it at success at any opportunity (bar last season in the worst league one in years).

Where as the historical achievements and state of my club at the moment from a small town with some of the greatest competition in England for fans, are something to be proud of.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

He played in the bottom leagues of Scotland, and is yet to manage a big club...

Neeeeeeexxxxxxxttttt.

Can't argue with facts.

Which big club as Cotterill played and managed then?

 

[JJH]

Can't argue with facts.

Which big club as Cotterill played and managed then?

Don't know about you - but I class Nottingham Forest as a very big club.

As for playing career - Wimbledon and Brighton are both pretty respectable.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Don't know about you - but I class Nottingham Forest as a very big club.

As for playing career - Wimbledon and Brighton are both pretty respectable.

Something wrong with you then if they're a 'very big club'. Plus he managed them at probably one of the lowest points in their history.

Wimbledon and Brighton? At the time he played for them? Pull other one.

 

[JJH]

Something wrong with you then if they're a 'very big club'. Plus he managed them at probably one of the lowest points in their history.

Wimbledon and Brighton? At the time he played for them? Pull other one.

I think the saying is 'pull the other one.'

And the time he played for them was 5 years after they won the FA Cup.

And Nottingham Forest not a 'very big club?'

Do your history.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

I think the saying is 'pull the other one.'

And the time he played for them was 5 years after they won the FA Cup.

And Nottingham Forest not a 'very big club?'

Do your history.

We don't use 'the' in Yorkshire.

5 years after they were half decent you mean?

The only people who will describe Nottingham Forest as a 'very big club' will be you and Nottingham forest fans.

 

[JJH]

We don't use 'the' in Yorkshire.

5 years after they were half decent you mean?

The only people who will describe Nottingham Foret as a 'very big club' will be you and Nottingham forest fans.

Or anyone who lived through the generation, or has done their research.

They've won the first division, the FA Cup twice, the League Cup 4 times, and most notably, the European Cup twice.

Since 1947, their average attendance is 25,000+.

Very big club, and are massively under-achieving.

 

[hodge]

We don't use 'the' in Yorkshire.

5 years after they were half decent you mean?

The only people who will describe Nottingham Forest as a 'very big club' will be you and Nottingham forest fans.

But anyway again people

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

Or anyone who lived through the generation, or has done their research.

They've won the first division, the FA Cup twice, the League Cup 4 times, and most notably, the European Cup twice.

Since 1947, their average attendance is 25,000+.

Very big club, and are massively under-achieving.

They're not even the biggest club in this division. The championship if you hadn't realised.

Villa, Everton, Newcastle are very big clubs, Nottingham forest aren't.

 

[JJH]

They're not even the biggest club in this division. The championship if you hadn't realised.

Villa, Everton, Newcastle are very big clubs, Nottingham forest aren't.

There are some 'very big' clubs in the Championship as well. 5 notably.

Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Wolves, Forest, possibly Derby.

Regardless of which - we're going off topic. Nottingham Forest are a big club, no questions asked.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

There are some 'very big' clubs in the Championship as well. 5 notably.

Sheffield Wednesday, Leeds, Wolves, Forest, possibly Derby.

Regardless of which - we're going off topic. Nottingham Forest are a big club, no questions asked.

Gone from 'very big club' to 'big club' quickly.

 

[JJH]

Gone from 'very big club' to 'big club' quickly.

My original argument is that they were a big club, and in comparison to the club Steve Evans has managed, a very big club.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

My original argument is that they were a big club, and in comparison to the club Steve Evans has managed, a very big club.

''Don't know about you - but I class Nottingham Forest as a very big club. ''

Come on, let's not change our mind when we're losing arguments.

 

[Scrumpy]

We've got quite a bite on this one...

 

[JJH]

''Don't know about you - but I class Nottingham Forest as a very big club. ''

Come on, let's not change our mind when we're losing arguments.

It's a shame there are no Nottingham Forest fans on here to be honest.

But - has my view changed? No. I class Nottingham Forest as a 'very big club.'

And talking of arguments, didn't this stem from comparing Cotterill and Evans? I think there's an outright winner in terms of clubs managed and played for.

 

[StevieEvansRedNWhiteArmy]

It's a shame there are no Nottingham Forest fans on here to be honest.

But - has my view changed? No. I class Nottingham Forest as a 'very big club.'

And talking of arguments, didn't this stem from comparing Cotterill and Evans? I think there's an outright winner in terms of clubs managed and played for.

Why so they can say their own club is massive, what would that prove?

Richard Wright, Francis Jeffers and Stuart Taylor played for Arsenal, doesn't mean they're weren't and aren't wank.

There's no argument, Evans is more successful, your own stats showed that.

This decent season has gone to your heads.