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Take your pick from one of these arguments:

1. There's no such thing as 'road tax'.
2. Vehicle excise duty is not ringfenced for roads, so all taxes contribute to roads.
3. Rates of VED are determined by pollution, so you don't have to pay it for a bike because they don't have emissions.
4. Not having to pay is arguably a tax break to encourage people to cycle rather than drive. If you don't like paying it, get a bike.

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If you lived in Tower Hamlets, where it's congested to death as it is and now made worse because of the increasing number of cycle lanes (not to mention the road closures to build cycle lanes) you'd be making not so well thought out arguments too.
 

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He would. Because he'd be doing the sensible thing and riding a bike and would appreciate the increased number of cycle lanes.

London is turning into a car unfriendly City. Which is a good thing.
 

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Take your pick from one of these arguments:
2. Vehicle excise duty is not ringfenced for roads.

Will be starting from 2020, as it should be. I expect you tight fisted weirdos to either start contributing or get the fuck off my roads tbh. Pay for your own poxy lanes I say.
 

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Being stuck behind a bus or a learner driver is frustrating. I've never really had a problem with cyclists, as most of the time it's easy enough to get past them.

Being an impatient, rubbish driver behind a learner is incredibly frustrating for the learner and is incredibly counter-productive.
 

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He would. Because he'd be doing the sensible thing and riding a bike and would appreciate the increased number of cycle lanes.

London is turning into a car unfriendly City. Which is a good thing.

It's incredibly unnecessary though, I'd understand seperate little cycling routes at say roundabouts and that. But giving up lanes on busy high roads is beyond ridiculous.
 

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When you go to watch an American made documentary and it's the type full of razzmatazz. I only want to learn about the subject, not shake in fear under my blanket and suffer an epileptic fit due to the frequent shot changes.
 

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Talking of documentaries, there was one on Channel 5 the other night about the 'cheese grater' getting built in London, and one of the lead engineers was a Scotsman and he was talking about the project, and they put fucking subtitles on it! I should've known better with it being on that shit channel, but there was nothing else on and I like engineering programmes. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

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They had to do that with Being Liverpool so the Americans it was made for could understand what was being said amongst the flying flem.

My dad's a jock and I can barely understand na word he says.:bg1:
 

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They had to do that with Being Liverpool so the Americans it was made for could understand what was being said amongst the flying flem.

My dad's a jock and I can barely understand na word he says.:bg1:
I do remember an American friend of mine telling me when Trainspotting was on over there, that it was shown with subtitles, the same with Taggart! :D
 

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Talking of documentaries, there was one on Channel 5 the other night about the 'cheese grater' getting built in London, and one of the lead engineers was a Scotsman and he was talking about the project, and they put fucking subtitles on it! I should've known better with it being on that shit channel, but there was nothing else on and I like engineering programmes. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Talking of documentaries, there was one on Channel 5 the other night about the 'cheese grater' getting built in London, and one of the lead engineers was a Scotsman and he was talking about the project, and they put fucking subtitles on it! I should've known better with it being on that shit channel, but there was nothing else on and I like engineering programmes. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
Can we have that in English please?
 

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Being stuck behind a bus or a learner driver is frustrating. I've never really had a problem with cyclists, as most of the time it's easy enough to get past them.

Never understood the hate for learner drivers. We've all had to be at that stage of learning plus it doesn't help the learner having some angry driver behind you beeping their horn because you stalled.
 

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The glorified karaoke singer known as Elvis Presley.
 

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I'm not a fan of Elvis either really. The odd song I like (Can't Help Falling In Love was our first dance at our wedding for instance) but he wasn't particularly talented. He didn't write many of the songs, did he?
 

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He didn't write any of them to my knowledge. Good voice and he certainly had the looks. But has to be up there amongst the most overrated artists of all time.

He'd have certainly done well on X-Factor mind.
 

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Never understood the hate for learner drivers. We've all had to be at that stage of learning plus it doesn't help the learner having some angry driver behind you beeping their horn because you stalled.

I'm actually a lot more patient than what i used to be, and i agree that we've all been at that stage ourselves once. One thing i would never do is beep my horn at learner drivers. All i said was it can be frustrating. I definitely don't hate them because i was in that situation many years ago, 18 years ago to be exact.
 
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The Beatles - god what overated twats they were and the coverage they still get is baffling imo. Dreadful group.

It's their role in being pioneers of a genre. NWA have a similar schtick.
 

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It's their role in being pioneers of a genre. NWA have a similar schtick.
However what gets lost is that they weren't revolutionary nor pioneers yet they are treated like they invented pop music and many other genres.
 

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However what gets lost is that they weren't revolutionary nor pioneers yet they are treated like they invented pop music and many other genres.

Doesn't matter, people think that's the case.

Funny story, up until last year the only Beatles' song I really liked was Mrs. Robinson. Then I finally found out it's by Simon & Garfunkel. :bg1:
 
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Doesn't matter, people think that's the case.

Funny story, up until last year the only Beatles' song I really liked was Mrs. Robinson. Then I finally found out it's by Simon & Garfunkel. :bg1:
I am the walrus is mental but that's it imo. :)
 

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The Beatles - god what overated twats they were and the coverage they still get is baffling imo. Dreadful group.
When i was growing up my mum loved The Beatles, i never liked them as i prefer a good rock riff than a band that played pop music while having as much charisma as a dead hedgehog.
 

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When i was growing up my mum loved The Beatles, i never liked them as i prefer a good rock riff than a band that played pop music while having as much charisma as a dead hedgehog.

 

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However what gets lost is that they weren't revolutionary nor pioneers yet they are treated like they invented pop music and many other genres.

Only someone unaware how the likes of Rubber Soul and Sg. Pepper differed from everything else at the time would come out with such bollocks.
 

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Only someone unaware how the likes of Rubber Soul and Sg. Pepper differed from everything else at the time would come out with such bollocks.
They are shit and just because they multi-tracked doesn't mean they were revolutionary at all. A lot of others around then were creating groundbreaking music that would influence true genuine fine work later on, but the Beatles just made kack I'm afraid.
 

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They are shit and just because they multi-tracked doesn't mean they were revolutionary at all. A lot of others around then were creating groundbreaking music that would influence true genuine fine work later on, but the Beatles just made kack I'm afraid.

It's nothing to do with them being 'milti-tracked'. I'm talking about the production, the songwriting and the overall package as albums. Listen to what The Beach Boys Brian Wilson's comments on Rubber Soul, and how he said it was the first album that fit together like an actual album, rather than simply a collection of songs. And how it inspired Pet Sounds the following year. Then with Sg. Pepper, just have a read of the write up on it in The Rolling Stones 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time (link below), where it sits at number one. In short, you don't have to like The Beatles, and you're perfectly entitled to say they're shit in your opinion. But to say they weren't pioneers is quite simply complete bollocks.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/l...-sgt-peppers-lonely-hearts-club-band-20120531
 

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I used to think The Beatles were overrated but that was based on their big hits. The albums are by far better. Revolver is my favourite album; Taxman, Here There and Everywhere, Good Day Sunshine, Got To Get You Into My Life...perfection.
 

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