Tin pot clubs in League Two

[shoddycollins]

Lot of arguments that L2 is now more tinpot than the Conference seem to hinge on Sutton being in L2 while Notts County are in the Conny.

Wealdstone.

I rest my case.

 

[shoddycollins]

National League this season probably less tinpot than League Two. Pretty much agree that historic pre-1986 status is what counts, but maybe some consideration for Official Honorary Tinpot Status should be granted to clubs who had to go through re-election over and over and over and over again back in the day. (Might catch Hartlepool that way, possibly also Northampton, maybe even Crewe?)

What is it with Hartlepool and elections. Doesn't matter what sort of election it is, league re, general, mayoral, by... they're always right up among it... it's almost like their version of Wembley.

 

[FGR Stroud]

Don’t work like that mate.

Okay. But clubs being re-elected might be another criteria.
There are currently 14 EFL2 clubs that have had to apply for past re-elections.

Re-election (Football League) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Conker]

What about Barrow? They’re an ex EFL club too.

Also how many years does a club need to spend in the league before it can be consider applying for partial proper club status? Are Cheltenham, Stevenage or Morecambe getting close?

Barrow are above the likes of Stevenage, Sutton, FGR etc but not worthy enough to be in my definitive list above. I think they’ll take that quite happily too.

 

[FGR Stroud]

You forgot Exeter, I know they were definitely down there cos we played them when we were down there.

In fact (just checked) they were down there for 5 years, which is as long as Mansfield who your argument seems directed at. You're not Devonlad in disguise are you?

Genuine error.
But it does reinforce my original point that those slinging mud at so called 'tin potters' should look closer at home.

 

[shoddycollins]

Barrow are above the likes of Stevenage, Sutton, FGR etc but not worthy enough to be in my definitive list above. I think they’ll take that quite happily too.

There's maybe a status to be inserted between league stalwarts and tinpotters for throwback clubs like Barrow, and Newport (and Accrington Stanley) who your grandad remembers always being around but then spent so long outside the league they can't be considered stalwarts anymore. And to be fair it's been quite nice to see that a few of them can get back in.

The sort of teams whose first spell as a league club was back in the days of proper fat goalies, teams having a fag at half time and players being transferred for a set of training kits and a tin of paint for the dressing room, basically back when the whole football league was tinpot.

Not sure if there's anyone knocking around in the National League system at the moment who might be considered in that group though. Wrexham probably closest but still miles of since they've been a league club well within my memory, think you have to be a proper 'grandad's days' league club to fit the bill. Gateshead, Maidstone or BPA maybe, depending on the extent to which they were ever a 'proper' league club.

 

[Vanni]

Northampton and Colchester? There’s basically seven I think proper clubs in the Conference and would go to eight if want to include Aldershot. This league is way more proper even now.

Yep, and Orient as well which makes the whole 'the NL is more proper than L2 nowadays' argument a tad silly.

I have always maintained my position that the fact that a few of the so called proper clubs like Stockport and Notts Co are currently in the NL means nowt because they're down there for a very simple reason - they're not that good on the pitch and that's the one thing that really matters. Best thing the league ever did was to scrap the re-election nonsense.

 

[EricSabin]

National League this season probably less tinpot than League Two. Pretty much agree that historic pre-1986 status is what counts, but maybe some consideration for Official Honorary Tinpot Status should be granted to clubs who had to go through re-election over and over and over and over again back in the day. (Might catch Hartlepool that way, possibly also Northampton, maybe even Crewe?)

We never had to go through any re-elections. You sir are fake news.

 

[shoddycollins]

We never had to go through any re-elections. You sir are fake news.

should have responded with 'cobblers!' but I'm sure the opportunity will rearise once Devonlad returns from his holidays.

 

[Chief Rocka]

The Tinpotters up here get more riled about their Tinpot status then the bunch down below.

Bringing Excel sheets and everything to the argument!

 

[Vanni]

Genuine error.
But it does reinforce my original point that those slinging mud at so called 'tin potters' should look closer at home.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the 'tinpot' and 'proper' tags that we attach to football clubs. What does the word 'proper' even mean in football terms? For me it's quite simple: if I have to pay to get in some ground whether it's here or abroad then that ground belongs to a 'proper' football club

I do use the words 'hobby club' though, and I'm not referring to Crawley, FGR, Burton etc but rather to Salford and (it pains me to say this) Wrexham.

 

[Vanni]

Okay. But clubs being re-elected might be another criteria.
There are currently 14 EFL2 clubs that have had to apply for past re-elections.
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Re-election (Football League) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That table only refers to the Third North and South years (1920-1958). I know this because Hartlepool had to seek re-election about a million times in total.

If you scroll down that wiki page you'll come across another table for the old 4th division era (1959-1987).

 

[RiftHouseLad]

National League this season probably less tinpot than League Two. Pretty much agree that historic pre-1986 status is what counts, but maybe some consideration for Official Honorary Tinpot Status should be granted to clubs who had to go through re-election over and over and over and over again back in the day. (Might catch Hartlepool that way, possibly also Northampton, maybe even Crewe?)

no one can catch us we used what is now know as "The Trump Counter", never fails.
it would not work now, we sold the rights to Donald.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Is tinpot the same as unfashionable, cause we would piss that.
And we don't care.

 

[BarraMatt]

Tinpot and proud. We launched our 2017 kit outside a Maccy Ds.

 

[chipmunx]

Tinpot and proud. We launched our 2017 kit outside a Maccy Ds.

probably because several of our players back then would have been inside...

 

[Chris FGR]

I bumped into our team + management at Maccy D’s in Braintree just after a game a few years back. Not many salads were being had.

 

[Fedora Dale]

I bumped into our team + management at Maccy D’s in Braintree just after a game a few years back. Not many salads were being had.

Hope they were on vegeburgers...

 

[Chris FGR]

Hope they were on vegeburgers...

Jon Parkin definitely wasn’t!

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Not all this bollocks again - the non-league forum is full of them all wanking on about the brotherhood in some kind of circle jerk for old men.

Anyway, someone fetch the picture of the Mansfield bus.

 

[EricSabin]

should have responded with 'cobblers!' but I'm sure the opportunity will rearise once Devonlad returns from his holidays.

I‘ve had enough of people saying ‘cobblers!’ ‘No it’s true’

 

[Trapdoor]

Someone fetch the picture of the Mansfield bus.

 

[Conker]

The brotherhood stuff in NL is noncey though, I’d like to feel that us real EFL members can agree to that.

 

[Chris FGR]

View attachment 14939

Tried to find that dog in a Mansfield scarf pic that was there as well. Googled dog in Mansfield scarf but couldn’t find it. Image search did throw up a lot of pictures of Carolyn in a Mansfield scarf for some reason though.

 

[Robshep]

Tranmere Rovers haven't finished top of any table we have been in for 83 years. Thats probably a bit tinpot.

 

[Vanni]

 

[Fedora Dale]

Tranmere Rovers haven't finished top of any table we have been in for 83 years. Thats probably a bit tinpot.

Rochdale haven't finished top of any table, ever. This may be deliberate, in order not to have to buy unbudgeted trophy polish...

 

[shoddycollins]

Rochdale haven't finished top of any table, ever. This may be deliberate, in order not to have to buy unbudgeted trophy polish...

Oldham haven't experienced promotion at any level since before many of us were born.

 

[kieran_vale]

Oldham haven't experienced promotion at any level since before many of us were born.

I think you have to go back to when they had a plastic pitch.

We’ve not made the playoffs since 1993 which is pretty bad though have had a couple of times automatically.

 

[Myblueheaven04]

1990/91 won the championship
Lol........ thats our last promotion