Stickied Transfer Rumours 2018/19

[SALTIRE]

I'll let myself get excited.

What a signing!

Matic
Herrera Pogba
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*Drools*

So it was you circling those Emma Watson photo's to see if they were genuine.

 

[Stevencc]

So it was you circling those Emma Watson photo's to see if they were genuine.

Absolutely no comment.

 

[JimJams]

Latest rumour going round is that Chelsea want Drinkwater to replace Matic!
Bet their fans will be shitting themselves with excitement over that prospect.

 

[Super_horns]

New Brazilian striker in coming?

Sounds like somebody with raw potential but maybe could do a job..

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sp...rlison_Watford_sale_for___11_million/?ref=rss

 

[JimJams]

Work permit?

 

[Super_horns]

Work permit?

Well yes that could be the stumbling block but the club seem more confident than usual!

 

[Pagnell]

Reds forward Sadio Mane has emerged as a new target for Italian giants Inter Milan with the club expecting to bid £35m for the 25-year-old.(Daily Express)

I needed a laugh.

 

[SALTIRE]

The Express and The Star are woeful when it comes to Liverpool transfers.

 

[Pagnell]

I certainly wouldn't rule out a bid for him, he was one of the best players in the Premiership last season. The idea that we'd even bother picking up the phone for a £35m bid though is comical.

I doubt we'd be any more interested in selling him than we are Coutinho. We're not buying enough players as it is this window without selling the best of the ones we already have.

 

[smat]

Premiership

It's called the Premier League you old man.

 

[snortingfrogs]

No doubt Barca will come back with a massive bid for Coutinho now that Neymar is going to PSG.

 

[JimJams]

Get 100mill for him then, you'd be better off.

 

[JimJams]

With rumours that Everton, Spurs and Dortmund are all sniffing around Gray it's lil old Bournemouth who have been made favourites (at evens) to take him away from us.
I can't see us selling tbh but he's definitely not being given the time he needs or deserves in our side.

 

[Benji]

Everton are supposed to have finally found the right fee for Gylfi. Should be interesting to see how Swansea deal with the business of replacing him.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

With rumours that Everton, Spurs and Dortmund are all sniffing around Gray it's lil old Bournemouth who have been made favourites (at evens) to take him away from us.
I can't see us selling tbh but he's definitely not being given the time he needs or deserves in our side.

We've had our eye on Gray for years, over several transfer windows, since he first broke through at Birmingham. One time we had an outline agreement with them and actually had a club official with Gray on deadline day with a contract for him to sign, waiting for us and Birmingham to agree the fine details. That deal fell through, and he went on to sign for Leicester of course, but it shows how close we were and how much we like him.

Whilst I don't doubt Howe remains interested, once he signed for Leicester he probably rose above our price point. If he was made available / wanted to leave, I'm sure other clubs would be in there with better offers. It's also a position we're now well stocked in.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Get 100mill for him then, you'd be better off.

How?

 

[JimJams]

Mane Salah and Firmbuttocks make up the front 3 where previously Cout played on the left. With 100 mill in the bank they could improve on him for a central mid spot, or with 100mill they could replace him with a more like for like and still have money left over.
Do you not think Liverpool can buy a better player than Coutinho for 100 mill?

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Mane Salah and Firmbuttocks make up the front 3 where previously Cout played on the left. With 100 mill in the bank they could improve on him for a central mid spot, or with 100mill they could replace him with a more like for like and still have money left over.
Do you not think Liverpool can buy a better player than Coutinho for 100 mill?

I don't think they can no, otherwise that's what Barca would be doing.

 

[Bilo]

Mane Salah and Firmbuttocks make up the front 3 where previously Cout played on the left. With 100 mill in the bank they could improve on him for a central mid spot, or with 100mill they could replace him with a more like for like and still have money left over.
Do you not think Liverpool can buy a better player than Coutinho for 100 mill?

We already have literally more money than we can spend and there's no one even remotely as good as Coutinho available to us. All the money in world football is making the market less fluid, you can't just go and demand a player from a level below like a few years ago.

Also, you underrate Coutinho.

 

[JimJams]

No, you overrate him. He's not a 100mill player and prior to the Neymar deal the suggestion he is would be ridiculed.
Also Ebs point that Barca would just buy an alternative player doesn't stack because Barca have sold a player who excelled on the left of a front 3 and wish to buy Coutinho who excels in that position, but Coutinho won't be playing there with the current front 3 so you could use the money to replace him with a central mid. Or of course there are other possibilities. For example Aubameyang has a buyout of 60 mill. You could get an actual striker, put Firmbody into an attck minded midfield spot and have 40 mill left over.
Also you can demand players with that kind of money from foreign clubs who aren't going to turn down obscene amounts of money for their players because they can't afford to.
Less than a month ago Liverpool fans and neutrals alike all pretty much agreed that Coutinhos consistency meant he wasn't ready for Barceleona yet, but he's worth 100mill?

 

[Bilo]

No, you overrate him. He's not a 100mill player and prior to the Neymar deal the suggestion he is would be ridiculed.
Also Ebs point that Barca would just buy an alternative player doesn't stack because Barca have sold a player who excelled on the left of a front 3 and wish to buy Coutinho who excels in that position, but Coutinho won't be playing there with the current front 3 so you could use the money to replace him with a central mid. Or of course there are other possibilities. For example Aubameyang has a buyout of 60 mill. You could get an actual striker, put Firmbody into an attck minded midfield spot and have 40 mill left over.
Also you can demand players with that kind of money from foreign clubs who aren't going to turn down obscene amounts of money for their players because they can't afford to.
Less than a month ago Liverpool fans and neutrals alike all pretty much agreed that Coutinhos consistency meant he wasn't ready for Barceleona yet, but he's worth 100mill?

The transfer market has changed and it has done so incredibly quickly. Two months ago I'd have accepted 100 mill for Coutinho because two months ago I'd have no reason to believe clubs like Southampton and Leipzig would turn down £70m bids. Also, we play a 4-3-3 (we don't have the CM's for a 4-2-3-1) and Firmino is quite genuinely shit on the flanks. Buying Auba would be amazing, but we're well stacked in that position so I'm unsure what you're getting at. And while you're right about Coutinho being in the middle in our first choice eleven, he'll move out wide to accomodate Lallana the minute any one of Salah and Mané is unavailable, which probably won't be a negligible number of games. We aren't well stacked with players who can perform out wide, in fact, we have three of them -- all of whom will start whenever available. If we replace Coutinho with a CM (who??) of even remotely similar quality we'll still need a new wide player.

100 million simply isn't a lot, and we already have roughly that amount lying around with no idea what to do with it. Flip it around, a Coutinho-less squad with the possibility to add Coutinho for a 100 million? It's a no brainer because unless Southampton/Leipzig swallow more than a mouthful of pride, that money will just end up lying around anyway.

 

[JimJams]

100 million simply isn't a lot, and we already have roughly that amount lying around with no idea what to do with it. Flip it around, a Coutinho-less squad with the possibility to add Coutinho for a 100 million? It's a no brainer because unless Southampton/Leipzig swallow more than a mouthful of pride, that money will just end up lying around anyway.

I think that's a pretty narrow view. 100mill is absolutely a lot. It's just that you're talking about dealing with a premier league side and the Man City of German football. Clubs who can afford to turn down ridiculous fees because they don't need the money. That isn't an issue with a vast number of clubs around the world. Hell even the likes of PSG may need to bargain basement some players so that this whole Neymar deal doesn't kill them when Uefa check the accounts.
Roma sold Rudiger and Salah for 70mill, Lemar is reportedly valued by Monaco at 50mill, Tolliso, Coman and Sule just cost Bayern a combined total of 70mill. AC Milan have spent 50mill on Rodriguez, Mussachio and Calhanoglu.
There's value in the market if you aren't buying from the prem or uber rich clubs.

Surely when Lucas Leiva, superstar that he is, only costs 4.85mill then mere world class players can be got for a pittance.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Jeeesus, we've made a 20m bid for Gray JimJams . Rejected.

We're supposed to be saving for a new stadium and weren't expecting any further business this summer having got our 3 main targets. Seems we've been alerted to a potential deal if the price is right?

 

[Bilo]

I think that's a pretty narrow view. 100mill is absolutely a lot. It's just that you're talking about dealing with a premier league side and the Man City of German football. Clubs who can afford to turn down ridiculous fees because they don't need the money. That isn't an issue with a vast number of clubs around the world. Hell even the likes of PSG may need to bargain basement some players so that this whole Neymar deal doesn't kill them when Uefa check the accounts.
Roma sold Rudiger and Salah for 70mill, Lemar is reportedly valued by Monaco at 50mill, Tolliso, Coman and Sule just cost Bayern a combined total of 70mill. AC Milan have spent 50mill on Rodriguez, Mussachio and Calhanoglu.
There's value in the market if you aren't buying from the prem or uber rich clubs.

You do make a good point re this and I'll concede some value has definitely been found (by clubs significantly better at finding value than us) but nonetheless; we stand here with more money than Klopp is willing to spend. We really, really don't need the money until we've spent what we already have, which seemingly is significantly more than £100M.

To put it this way, if we sell Coutinho for that sum, what will change? We could get both Lemar and Auba without selling Coutinho so suffice to say the reason we haven't would remain regardless of Coutinho moving. He's perfect for us positionally and he has a good chance of moving into the world class bracket this season.

Surely when Lucas Leiva, superstar that he is, only costs 4.85mill then mere world class players can be got for a pittance.

Yes this was a farce but I have already said that I'm fine. I'm ok with it. No problem here. So you needn't bring this up again. Nor anyone else on this forum. It's ok. Stop talking about it.

 

[JimJams]

Jeeesus, we've made a 20m bid for Gray JimJams . Rejected.

We're supposed to be saving for a new stadium and weren't expecting any further business this summer having got our 3 main targets. Seems we've been alerted to a potential deal if the price is right?

Can't see it. With uncertainty over Mahrez looming we won't let Gray go. If the Algerian leaves Gray goes straight into the first 11. There's argument for him being in the starting 11 regardless.
It'll take a stupid offer or a loan at a stretch to get him. And with him being our best option for cover and the bench, I dont see that happening either.

 

[Super_horns]

Looks like we want Lennon on loan but Everton are after a permanent deal...

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Looks like we want Lennon on loan but Everton are after a permanent deal...

Another English player?! What are Watford's recruitment people playing at?

 

[Super_horns]

Another English player?! What are Watford's recruitment people playing at?

And linked with Kieran Gibbs too!

Be good to have experienced Premier league players I feel - maybe past their best but still could do a job.

However we might be getting a Brazilian striker though...work permit permitting!

We seem to have stock-piled Chelsea style a load of young South Americans and sent them out on loan - presumably because once Brexit comes in play the Pozzos won't find it so easy to get such players here?

 

[Pagnell]

He's not a 100mill player

If Barcelona end up offering that amount should Neymar leave, he surely is? Transfer fees in football are now so fucked up and ridiculous, it's pointless trying to think of players in terms of what was sensible in seasons past.

 

[JimJams]

I still don't think so, and I think that's what Klopp and Mourinho were alluding to with their recent comments on the situation.
Me n Beelo had a rather mature back n forth on this though, and his final point about possible purchases is a fair one. You don't need to sell Cout in order to fund the likes of those mentioned. I was looking at it from the point of view that an Auba and Lemar (at their last quoted expected values) were better than 1 Coutinho and a bit of change.
This is one of those situations I suppose where you weigh it up vs other players prices in the market and the players worth to you. I just think looking around there are a decent amount of players you could take on and still have a large amount of cash left over that would be an improvement on Coutinho. James Rodriguez is on a 2 year loan for something like 9 mill, and 31 more to make it permanent for example.