Stickied Transfer Rumours 2018/19

[Stocky]

No Europe and time to train will gain good results. I expect them to be pushing for the CL spots.

People took about no Europe. Europe can undoubtedly be a hinderance to small sqauds but nothing like the hinderance of not actually being a patricularly good football team. There will be 13 clubs in the league with no European football next year and will be able to train to their hearts content. Most if not all will still finish in the bottom half.

 

[SALTIRE]

People took about no Europe. Europe can undoubtedly be a hinderance to small sqauds but nothing like the hinderance of not actually being a patricularly good football team. There will be 13 clubs in the league with no European football next year and will be able to train to their hearts content. Most if not all will still finish in the bottom half.

Klopp is specifically a coach that likes to be on the training pitch bringing more out of his players and improving them and so far in his career he's done that so I don't see how he can't improve the players we currently have given time which they didn't have last year and added to that the signings he's bringing in.

 

[Stocky]

Klopp is specifically a coach that likes to be on the training pitch bringing more out of his players and improving them and so far in his career he's done that so I don't see how he can't improve the players we currently have given time which they didn't have last year and added to that the signings he's bringing in.

Every coach in the world is like this. Every manager or coach wants more time to mould his players and tactics.

I think Klopp has a very impressive track record so we'll see. I think he's a good manager but he's in a league of good manager's and many of the other good managers have a better hand than he has to play around with.

 

[G-Dragon]

Klavan medical

Edit: Ragnar Klavan has passed his medical and is set to be announced tomorrow. (Echo)
Hopefully better back up than Skrtel.

 

[SALTIRE]

Every coach in the world is like this. Every manager or coach wants more time to mould his players and tactics.

I think Klopp has a very impressive track record so we'll see. I think he's a good manager but he's in a league of good manager's and many of the other good managers have a better hand than he has to play around with.

Maybe. We'll see. I still expect Liverpool to be more competitive this season come what may.

 

[SALTIRE]

Klavan medical

Edit: Ragnar Klavan has passed his medical and is set to be announced tomorrow. (Echo)
Hopefully better back up than Skrtel.

Steve Bruce in his current state would be a better backup than Skrtel.

 

[Anon]

Oxford would almost certainly be daft to join Man City at this point in his career.

So, it'll probably happen.

 

[Pagnell]

There will be 13 clubs in the league with no European football next year and will be able to train to their hearts content. Most if not all will still finish in the bottom half.

Most perhaps. All I'm not so sure about. Given that it's impossible.

 

[Stocky]

Most perhaps. All I'm not so sure about. Given that it's impossible.

Most sides, if not all, in the bottom half come May 2017 will be sides who didn't participate in European football this coming season is what I should have said.

 

[silkyman]

Oxford would almost certainly be daft to join Man City at this point in his career.

So, it'll probably happen.

I honestly don't know how good the lad is.

Guardiola has a decent record with bringing kids through though doesn't he?

 

[Kopper]

So what if they do and Liverpool pay it, its not your money is it.

I obviously care about the club and don't want to see it throw good money away. Money that could be better spent on someone else or kept, until the right player became available.

Arguing it's not my money is lame.
Surely all supporters want what's best for their club. This purchase at this price can't be considered in the best interests of the club.

 

[Anon]

I honestly don't know how good the lad is.

Guardiola has a decent record with bringing kids through though doesn't he?

He had that genuinely remarkable performance as a 16 year old against Ozil in the opening day win at Arsenal, followed up with a couple of right stinkers against Leicester and maybe Bournemouth too - then again, most of the team did too, we were yet to find any rhythm. Plus that Arsenal game was in midfield, when he's a defender by trade. Clearly has a lot of probably justified hype behind him, and has played for England at most if not all age levels so far, but of course who knows if he'll turn out to be anything like the player he could be.

The lure of working with Guardiola would be a big pull, perhaps even more so if Oxford actually turns out to have a career in deep midfield a la Guardiola, but I don't think Guardiola would risk putting a 17 year old as a mainstay in a creaky back line (for it's respective level) for two or even three years.

He'll get more games with us next season with Bilic having a lot of faith in him, Tomkins gone, Collins a year older and Reid always an injury risk. Would be sad to see him make an unnecessary move.

 

[Kopper]

Wow Yaya Toure who is finished! That's as bad as your love for the woeful Skrtel.

Skrtel was a committed player for us. He contributed far more than he's credited for. His selflessness meant he integrated well, with the team dynamic.
In contrast, Lovren is more outspoken and appears to be more egotistically driven. Despite having more flaws to his game than Skrtel, his attitude is perceived as confident and his shortcomings are readily dismissed.
Lovren is also less of team player than Skrtel because of it.

yes mate, yaya "20 stone" toure would be a wonderful addition to klopp's high intensity pressing game.

The high intensity football can't be sustained over the course of a season. Any objective analysis of this type of football would conclude that.
When Klopp finally abandons it he'll look to pass the ball better and press only when in our half and not in possession.
Yaya Toure has played 90%+ of all available games for City. He's burnt out. But if we brought him and didn't play him in the cups (maybe semi finals of the FA cup) and used him wisely in the league. I think we'd see a rejuvenated Toure.
The thing with Yaya is you expect him to be sublime, so he doesn't get praised for when he is.
Saltire said Toure is finished. But I would much prefer the finished article than some player, Newcastle are trying to pull the wool over our eyes on.

 

[G.B]

The high intensity football can't be sustained over the course of a season. Any objective analysis of this type of football would conclude that.

Leicester say hi.

 

[silkyman]

He had that genuinely remarkable performance as a 16 year old against Ozil in the opening day win at Arsenal, followed up with a couple of right stinkers against Leicester and maybe Bournemouth too - then again, most of the team did too, we were yet to find any rhythm. Plus that Arsenal game was in midfield, when he's a defender by trade. Clearly has a lot of probably justified hype behind him, and has played for England at most if not all age levels so far, but of course who knows if he'll turn out to be anything like the player he could be.

The lure of working with Guardiola would be a big pull, perhaps even more so if Oxford actually turns out to have a career in deep midfield a la Guardiola, but I don't think Guardiola would risk putting a 17 year old as a mainstay in a creaky back line (for it's respective level) for two or even three years.

He'll get more games with us next season with Bilic having a lot of faith in him, Tomkins gone, Collins a year older and Reid always an injury risk. Would be sad to see him make an unnecessary move.

Perhaps he'll end up loaned out like Roberts. At that age though, nothing will be career ruining unless he lets it because his career has the thick end of 20 years left. Look at Pogba. You can lave a club young and still go on to be a top player.

 

[SALTIRE]

Skrtel was a committed player for us. He contributed far more than he's credited for. His selflessness meant he integrated well, with the team dynamic.
In contrast, Lovren is more outspoken and appears to be more egotistically driven. Despite having more flaws to his game than Skrtel, his attitude is perceived as confident and his shortcomings are readily dismissed.
Lovren is also less of team player than Skrtel because of it.

 

[sl1k]

Italian papers reporting that Pogba has asked to leave. Finally looks like it's actually happening.

 

[G-Dragon]

Italian papers reporting that Pogba has asked to leave. Finally looks like it's actually happening.

Like I said (FYI weeks ago) its already a done deal.

 

[Abertawe]

Like I said (FYI weeks ago) its already a done deal.

Which alt said it?

 

[Mr. Scruff]

Pogba to United looking more and more likely. Not sure how I feel about it.

The money is obviously ridiculous but if all those noodle sponsorships werent being spent on this they would only line the Glazers pockets instead. There will be no ticket price reduction to compensate the fans who bought the club for them regardless so I don't care that much.

I loved him as a youngster, saw him a lot and he's only behind Morrison as the best youth player I've ever seen. But even then at that level he'd have games that just passed him by and I'm not sure thats changed an awful lot. Also not really sure what his best position is or where he fits in. If it was me him signing would mean the end of Rooney but I can't see that straight away.


I think if it happens he'll be a good signing long term as ability wise he's phenomonal but I think he's a bit overated right now and he'll possibly underwhelm at first as will the team which may struggle to find balance.

 

[Kopper]

Leicester say hi.

You mean Leicester who had no European commitments. Who took advantage of both Manchester clubs informing their managers they were no longer required. Chelsea having a long overdue meltdown. And the weakest minded club in Spurs, chase you for the title.

It would be better if you compared like for like. Klopp's final year at Dortmund. The season before Roger's left. The Arsenal side of 6/7 years ago were wedded to the pressing style. But eventually the injuries and lacklustre performances (and high profile beatings) convinced Wenger to change to a passing team.

The penny dropped for Wenger and it'll drop for Klopp too.

 

[Abertawe]

You mean Leicester who had no Europe commitments. Who took advantage of both Manchester clubs informing their managers they were no longer required. Chelsea having a long overdue meltdown. And the weakest minded club in Spurs, chase you for the title.

It would be better if you compared like for like. Klopp's final year at Dortmund. The season before Roger's left. The Arsenal side of 6/7 years ago was wedded to pressing. But eventually the injuries and lacklustre performances (and high profile beatings) convinced Wenger to change to a passing team.

The penny dropped for Wenger and it'll drop for Klopp too.

Don't even know where to begin with this. Potentially the worst 'serious' post I've ever seen.

 

[snortingfrogs]

Leroy Sane in talks with Liverpool according to reports in Germany.

 

[Stevencc]

He's wanted by Manchester City, Real and Bayern. If he is talking to Liverpool he is not Sane at all but, rather, INSANE.

 

[yellow]

It would be better if you compared like for like. Klopp's final year at Dortmund.

What about any of Klopp's years in charge prior to that? Y'know, double winning seasons, reaching CL finals and all that. I'm sure any Liverpool fan would take that level of success at the moment, wouldn't they?

 

[Kopper]

Don't even know where to begin with this. Potentially the worst 'serious' post I've ever seen.

I saw you get schooled on the Labour pains thread, by Max. So I've got to admit I'm not too worried about the merits of your opinion.

If you did start to critique my logic, you would at some point mention Barcelona as the perfect example of a pressing side. To which I would counter, Barcelona's ball rentention was better than anyone else's. Negating the need to press too often to get the ball back.

Allow me to point out the obvious. Liverpool aren't Barcelona.

 

[Kopper]

What about any of Klopp's years in charge prior to that? Y'know, double winning seasons, reaching CL finals and all that. I'm sure any Liverpool fan would take that level of success at the moment, wouldn't they?

Klopp had to overcome Bayern to win the league. In England he has both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Arsenal. Not to mention the clubs that we're in direct competition with i.e. Spurs, West Ham, Southampton etc.

As a Liverpool supporter I would take CL football or failing that a few youth academy prospects getting a run out for us and a stretch in one of the cups.

 

[Abertawe]

I saw you get schooled on the Labour pains thread, by Max. So I've got to admit I'm not too worried about the merits of your opinion.

If you did start to critique my logic, you would at some point mention Barcelona as the perfect example of a pressing side. To which I would counter, Barcelona's ball rentention was better than anyone else's. Negating the need to press too often to get the ball back.

Allow me to point out the obvious. Liverpool aren't Barcelona.

Neo lib brainwashed Maxy boy couldn't school a PHD student on their abc's let alone an absolute DON like me. Anyway, Max isn't even Labour, his history is LD's and his ideological views are in direct conflict to that of Labour. ie he's trolling.

Why are you banging on about Barcelona?

I'm taking issue with this supposed transformation Wenger made to turn Arsenal into a 'passing team' in order to avoid injuries. That's so absurd.
Arsenal have always been a passing team under Wenger and even if we pretend they did transform it certainly didn't work, their injury record is as bad as it's ever been and performances are still lacklustre.

You're just imagining something in order to add credence to your opinion. The penny dropped for Wenger indeed

 

[yellow]

Klopp had to overcome Bayern to win the league. In England he has both Manchester clubs, Chelsea and Arsenal. Not to mention the clubs that we're in direct competition with i.e. Spurs, West Ham, Southampton etc.

As a Liverpool supporter I would take CL football or failing that a few youth academy prospects getting a run out for us and a stretch in one of the cups.

As well as fending off the likes of Schalke, Leverkusen etc - all better prospects than West Ham/Saints and so forth. I'd also argue holding off Bayern is tougher than the sides here.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. There is numerous evidence to show that pressing football can be a huge success if done right - your team have a man in charge who has been there and done it before. There is no need to write his style off after 6 months, using a squad that he has had little time to impact upon with signings.

 

[snortingfrogs]

Atletico Madrid preparing a £32m for Origi according to bleacher report.