Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[JJH]

Bristol City spending 8m



On Andre Gray


It'll end in tears.

Based on?

 

[Madejski]

Alex Fernandez loan deal from Espanyol finally confirmed.

This Summer one of our key requirements for signing a player must be that they're ginger. McShane, Quinn, Fernandez and even our main striker target all share that same colour hair. Leads to unheard of powers, I hope.

 

[MagpieBee]

As far as I'm aware, this is just repetition of the story from a couple of days ago where he had already turned you down, so not reading much into it at the moment, unless you have gone back in with a better contract offer.

 

[toshj]

Jesus Christ.

As mentioned on the previous page, why not just invest on a top end L1 striker who will more than likely transfer his form up a division? Tom Bradshaw would have been perfect IMO.

Afobe cost us 2m, now look at him.
Gray cost Brentford 600k from the conference.
Many other examples listed earlier too.

Paying insane prices for an already proven Championship striker is madness, look at McCormack, 11 fucking million. Everyone going for the prem this season but only 3 can make it, will end it tears for many teams.

Lack of scouting ability, or lack of confidence in scouting maybe? I don't think Gray as an individual is worth that much, but he's probably worth that much to our promotion chances.

Last season Gray had Jota, Judge, Pritchard, Toumani and Dallas supporting him creatively, playing him through and setting up chances for him. This season we've lost Pritchard and Dallas, but gained Hofmann, Gogia and Kerschbaumer. With no disrespect intended towards BCFC, but as things stand I don't think they've got anywhere near the creativity and ability to deliver scoring opportunities as we had/have.

If he joins them it would be a big statement on their behalf, but a relatively underwhelming sign of intent from Andre.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Just reminds me

Based on?

Based on watching football for longer than you've been alive mate, I'm sorry but no club in this league should be splashing £8m on a single player, it just show's how fucked the game is, you're effectively paying more than Man United did for Andrew Cole, for a lad that has made just 40 odd appearances in the Football League.

Clubs on gates of 25/26k don't have the resources to splash that sort of cash ne'er mind ones on 10k less than that and one of the cheaper ticket prices (see Blackburn too), You went through the mire a couple of years back for over-spending too, just seems farcical.

 

[MagpieBee]

He's played a game and a half so far this league season, and during that time he's had a hand in 5 of our 6 goals. Effective.

Obviously we'd need to give a chunk of the fee to Luton, and even though I'm hearing £8m plus add ons, the payment schedule for that £8m would likely be 2, 3 or even 4 years. That said, we need reinforcements. With Jota, McEachran, Bjelland, Hogan and McLeod all injured for lengthy spells, our side is looking severely depleted despite picking up points this season.

I'm amazed we've picked up as many as we have considering most clubs with this amount of bad luck, plus losing their only proper right back, would have folded completely. Sure we've had a bit of luck in both games, but we've created more shots in our first two league games this season than any other side.

 

[JJH]

Just reminds me


Based on watching football for longer than you've been alive mate, I'm sorry but no club in this league should be splashing £8m on a single player, it just show's how fucked the game is, you're effectively paying more than Man United did for Andrew Cole, for a lad that has made just 40 odd appearances in the Football League.

Clubs on gates of 25/26k don't have the resources to splash that sort of cash ne'er mind ones on 10k less than that and one of the cheaper ticket prices (see Blackburn too), You went through the mire a couple of years back for over-spending too, just seems farcical.

Our problem when we were last in the Championship was giving big wages to overaged journeymen on long contracts.

Signings like Gray, who is raw, young and has room for improvement don't concern me. There's potential re-sale value there if he develops.

It could go either way, it may well end in tears, but you can't make a solid prediction that it will before the player even puts pen to paper.

 

[TractorBoys]

I'm amazed we've picked up as many as we have considering most clubs with this amount of bad luck, plus losing their only proper right back, would have folded completely. Sure we've had a bit of luck in both games, but we've created more shots in our first two league games this season than any other side.

Oh come on! Not trying to bait here but that sample size of two league games (ref; shots) is asbolutely worthless.

It also helps if you test the keeper more often than not with your efforts.

 

[JJH]

As far as I'm aware, this is just repetition of the story from a couple of days ago where he had already turned you down, so not reading much into it at the moment, unless you have gone back in with a better contract offer.

I have no idea where that came from. Only Moose reported it, and I struggle to see how we get onto personal terms with the lad if a fee hadn't been agreed?

In hindsight, Gray's performance against us on the weekend probably wasn't a bad thing, our owner was sat about 20 seats away from me, and it's probably removed any doubt in his mind.

Also, is Banana on your forum ITK? Everyone seems to be gutted that he's put sad faces about the situation.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Our problem when we were last in the Championship was giving big wages to overaged journeymen on long contracts.

Signings like Gray, who is raw, young and has room for improvement don't concern me. There's potential re-sale value there if he develops.

It could go either way, it may well end in tears, but you can't make a solid prediction that it will before the player even puts pen to paper.

Forums are about predictions and opinions fella, I will make a solid prediction here and now that you will lose money on Andre Gray in the longer term and he won't fire you to the PL in short to medium term.

He just smacks of a flash in the pan signing, granted I only saw him twice last season live and on TV but he never impressed me.

 

[Indian Dan]

Bloody hell, guys. Cotterill better be right about this one, plus whatever an £8m player's wages are.

That's serious money for a club with no parachute payments. Seems crazy to me - but that comes from a fan of a club that's playing hardball over buying a player for £50,000!

 

[Alex_BCFC]

What a waste of money if true.

 

[JJH]

Forums are about predictions and opinions fella, I will make a solid prediction here and now that you will lose money on Andre Gray in the longer term and he won't fire you to the PL in short to medium term.

He just smacks of a flash in the pan signing, granted I only saw him twice last season live and on TV but he never impressed me.

Believe me, an £8m price tag who has only had one season in this league is scary, but football is about risks, and this is a big one.

Having said that, he's less of a risk than Kodjia, despite the financial difference. Kodjia doesn't even speak the language, yet we chucked £2m at him. At least Gray has done it here before.

So starts the argument of British players being over-inflated, which they are, massively, if this is what you have to pay for a decent (not outstanding), decent Championship goalscorer.

 

[TractorBoys]

Bloody hell, guys. Cotterill better be right about this one, plus whatever an £8m player's wages are.

That's serious money for a club with no parachute payments. Seems crazy to me - but that comes from a fan of a club that's playing hardball over buying a player for £50,000!

Haven't you offered mim £30k/week inc. addons? I don't believe the price tag ye but its been on a few sits...

 

[TractorBoys]

He's no Daryl Murphy!

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Believe me, an £8m price tag who has only had one season in this league is scary, but football is about risks, and this is a big one.

Having said that, he's less of a risk than Kodjia, despite the financial difference. Kodjia doesn't even speak the language, yet we chucked £2m at him. At least Gray has done it here before.

So starts the argument of British players being over-inflated, which they are, massively, if this is what you have to pay for a decent (not outstanding), decent Championship goalscorer.

Mate he's had ONE season in the entire football league....that's even scarier.

 

[TractorBoys]

Believe me, an £8m price tag who has only had one season in this league is scary, but football is about risks, and this is a big one.

Having said that, he's less of a risk than Kodjia, despite the financial difference. Kodjia doesn't even speak the language, yet we chucked £2m at him. At least Gray has done it here before.

So starts the argument of British players being over-inflated, which they are, massively, if this is what you have to pay for a decent (not outstanding), decent Championship goalscorer.

Mate he's had ONE season in the entire football league....that's even scarier.

Tyone Mings commanded £8ml + Brett Pitman Free Exchange + Fraser Season Long ,a LB who played on full season in the gaugeable.

Bringing back to Grey, he is a good attacking player (espec. in Champ) but I cant see him thriving at Britsol.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Watch Hull come with a 9m bid for him now

 

[JJH]

Watch Hull come with a 9m bid for him now

Oh well - we'll just go and bid £11m for Leon Clarke...

 

[markwwfc1992]

Oh well - we'll just go and bid £11m for Leon Clarke...

Money well spent mate, already got 3 in 3 for Bury.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Tyone Mings commanded £8ml + Brett Pitman Free Exchange + Fraser Season Long ,a LB who played on full season in the gaugeable.

Bringing back to Grey, he is a good attacking player (espec. in Champ) but I cant see him thriving at Britsol.

But a PL club signed Mings, not Bristol City.....

 

[TractorBoys]

Appreciate that, it's not a like-for-like example and ofc AFCB have more means.
Ultimately though, still two very fees with lack of exp. ('m sure they'll both do fine, like!)

 

[Bobbin']

Our problem when we were last in the Championship was giving big wages to overaged journeymen on long contracts.

Signings like Gray, who is raw, young and has room for improvement don't concern me. There's potential re-sale value there if he develops.

It could go either way, it may well end in tears, but you can't make a solid prediction that it will before the player even puts pen to paper.

I'd be stunned if you ever recouped the 8mil let alone sell him on for more.

In other news, I saw on Twitter earlier that Diego Poyet may be joining MK Dons on loan

 

[MagpieBee]

I have no idea where that came from. Only Moose reported it, and I struggle to see how we get onto personal terms with the lad if a fee hadn't been agreed?

In hindsight, Gray's performance against us on the weekend probably wasn't a bad thing, our owner was sat about 20 seats away from me, and it's probably removed any doubt in his mind.

Also, is Banana on your forum ITK? Everyone seems to be gutted that he's put sad faces about the situation.

Yeah he does tend to be ITK. From what I heard you guys actually agreed a fee before the game, and he was allowed to speak to you and turned you down. No on reported it, until now, I'm just suggesting the TalkSport story is a few days late.

It might be the reason it has come out now is that you have offered better terms. Not sure. No one I know seems to know at the moment.

 

[M Dogg]

Another meltdown at Forest.

Spent weeks after Michael Frey of Lille. Passed a medical, everything in place. We then told him we want him to train for a week to see how fit he is as he's had ankle issues. He flew over last night, we pulled the plug, much to his dismay. He's turned down other clubs as well. Poor guy.

We are a dickhead of a football club.

 

[SamScfc]

Trouble lies ahead for Brentford,surelty with this being accepted they must have plenty of irons in the fire.

TB

Yeah it seems strange they're so willingly letting the best players from last season go.

SamScfc

 

[M Dogg]

I think Lansbury will go and we will get Juke back (plus a few mill).

We also want Vydra on loan apparently, but that is so far out of our league it's barely worth commenting on.

 

[hodge]

We weren't out of this thread for long

 

[mpmbee]

Yeah it seems strange they're so willingly letting the best players from last season go.

SamScfc

How could we turn down 8M for Gray? We're not willingly letting him go, the fact we're holding out for so much and that we've already rejected a load of big bids for him shows how much we want to keep him. Odubajo had a release clause so there was nothing we could do if someone bid that amount for him. Dallas is the only one that could be argued we have let go a little bit easy but if you look at the facts 1.25 million for a squad player (albeit a very good one) is good money.

 

[QPR_Matt]

The money for Gray to me smacks as a bit of desperation. I see the points about being young etc, but I just think that it is a massive amount of money to be paying in the Championship. Bolasie leaving is far from a dead cert as well for any money being used towards subsidising this fee.

We signed Austin 2 years ago for 4 million and people thought we were paying over the odds and he had proved himself over a couple of seasons in this division.