Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[Another Walkley Owl]

I hate the blame of parachute payments for everything at this level.

Parachute payments are the solution, not the problem.

The problem is the vast wealth difference between the leagues, if there was a much smaller difference there would be no need for parachute payments.

Why should 3 clubs be treated differently to all the others?if If your going to give them x million pounds to ensure they survive, then surely all the other clubs should get the same amount to enable them to compete fairly. Agree the money should be shared out better and that doesn't stop with the championship. The chasm between the championship and league 1 is getting wider too, its just not right think some people in the game (who should know better) just want a great PL and are prepared to let the rest of the leagues die. Don't know where they see future players plying their trade. No wonder the England team are so shit. Needs sorting from the bottom to the top.
God I'm on one today. Must be missing my Saturday dose of football!!

 

[Madejski]

Definitely but the Premier League is only getting richer, parachute payments just seem like a way of getting a closed shop Premier League, with all the relegated clubs coming back up year after year, due to non one being able to compete.

In the past five seasons only four teams have bounced back immediately to the Prem. Half of which were Burnley who seem to have a business model around doing such.

I don't think that is a shocking statistic at all, in fact i'm slightly surprised by how low that number is. You'd expect teams relegated from one level to do decently a level below.

And in that same time, Portsmouth, Blackpool, Wolves, Wigan and Bolton have all gone from Prem to L1 (or lower) with parachute payments. Blackburn will probably be added to that list this season.

 

[Madejski]

Why should 3 clubs be treated differently to all the others?if If your going to give them x million pounds to ensure they survive, then surely all the other clubs should get the same amount to enable them to compete fairly.

Is it impacting on league positions? Minimally.

It it saving clubs from financial disaster? Yes.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

Is it impacting on league positions? Minimally.

It it saving clubs from financial disaster? Yes.

Not the smaller clubs it isn't. More chance of them trying to compete and ending up in the shit. Understand where your coming from though.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

Is it impacting on league positions? Minimally.

It it saving clubs from financial disaster? Yes.

I have seen my club get relegated from the PL prior to parachute payments and yes we flirted with (understatement) financial disaster and ended up in league 1. So I understand what your saying, but what Im saying is shouldn't just be the relegated clubs that get a payment. The PL money should be shared out more equally across all leagues to ensure nobody is facing financial disaster. Some clubs cant afford to do essential safety work on their grounds, whilst others including some of the relegated clubs are throwing money about on new players like its fxxking confetti. Ok alot of this money has been made by selling players, but certain clubs are taking the piss.

 

[Haillay7]

In all fairness, parachute payments are there so if the relegated team gets promoted at the time first time of asking, the money is then shared between the other teams. It's there as a cushion so as to avoid teams falling like Leeds, Portmouth and Charlton.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

In all fairness, parachute payments are there so if the relegated team gets promoted at the time first time of asking, the money is then shared between the other teams. It's there as a cushion so as to avoid teams falling like Leeds, Portmouth and Charlton.

Why should there be a cushion for ex PL teams? They have got themselves in the situation in the first place. There is no cushion for the likes of Burton, Rotherham etc. Certainly wasn't 1 for Luton. Are these clubs less important? Would guess these clubs have less income coming in from other sources, than the relegated clubs, hence need financial help more. Just another example of money spoiling the game and the 1 rule for 1 club and 1 rule for another policy that's ruining the game.

 

[SMH]

Andy Delort has forced his move through to Tigres for an estimated fee for 8m euros. We have a sell on clause and it's said to be 50%! Hope we get some clarity on that, if true that's almost 3.5m of unexpected cash banked.

 

[TomPNE94]

Andy Delort has forced his move through to Tigres for an estimated fee for 8m euros. We have a sell on clause and it's said to be 50%! Hope we get some clarity on that, if true that's almost 3.5m of unexpected cash banked.

HertsWolf your favourite player

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

In all fairness, parachute payments are there so if the relegated team gets promoted at the time first time of asking, the money is then shared between the other teams. It's there as a cushion so as to avoid teams falling like Leeds, Portmouth and Charlton.

There is no justification for parachute payments in my opinion.
Clubs should be able to budget on the income they get.
What is it they get in the Prem this season, something like a minimum of £100m?
If they decide to spunk all of that and not make a provision for failure then they deserve everything they get.
The amount of money in the top flight, including the parachute payments is, in reality, causing its own financial problems, as Championship chairmen throw huge amounts of cash around chasing the untold Sky riches.

 

[JJH]

Rotherham want Dexter Blackstock.

He'll score on Saturday if he signs, guaranteed.

 

[Haillay7]

There is no justification for parachute payments in my opinion.
Clubs should be able to budget on the income they get.
What is it they get in the Prem this season, something like a minimum of £100m?
If they decide to spunk all of that and not make a provision for failure then they deserve everything they get.
The amount of money in the top flight, including the parachute payments is, in reality, causing its own financial problems, as Championship chairmen throw huge amounts of cash around chasing the untold Sky riches.

I don't necessarily disagree with that at all. I think I was just trying to play devil's advocate if I'm being honest. I know football is very tribal but no one wants to see Clubs in financial ruin like those I mentioned as it could easily happen to anyone that isn't part of the elite.

I believe it is somewhere in the region of that. We were very fortunate this year by being able to somehow sell our more valuable assets and taking their PL wages of the total wage bill. Often teams aren't so lucky and end up with players on high wages having had their stock fall to a point whereby no one is willing to pay for them. In turn, they've lost the majority of any TV deal they benefited from with largely the same squad.

Although I'm purely speculating, I don't think it's unfair to assume that when Blackpool were promoted, the players involved would have benefited from a large wage increase. Then when they were relegated the same season, they subsequently had a squad full of Championship players on wages, well beyond their means for the coming year. It's instances like this whereby it would be a useful tool.

Yes I completely agree that in the majority of cases it is down to poor due diligence from owners/managers but although I don't think it should be anywhere near the amount that it currently stands at, I do think it's possibly a sensible step to avoid Clubs falling apart.


*A lot of the above is not researched and in most cases I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Signing the magnificently named Urby Emanuelson.

 

[JJH]

Marlon Pack's signs a new two year deal

 

[Woodworm]

Urby played for us in the Prem on loan. Didn't really impress but hardly had much time but would have liked to see him again. Was quality on FM at the time

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Got a decent pedigree, 400 career appearances mainly with Ajax and AC Milan.

 

[Reaper]

Rotherham want Dexter Blackstock.

He'll score on Saturday if he signs, guaranteed.

Just signed, hope your right!

 

[Walkley_Owl]

3 year deal, bloody hell.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Don't know a massive amount about Urby Emanuelson but recognise the name, expect he's going to be a winger which is an area we need extra quality I suppose, especially if he's quick. Getting a bit concerning how large our squad is though, at least 6 that are surplus.

 

[Reaper]

3 year deal, bloody hell.

Not even sure if he's up to it anymore nowadays at 30 years old nevermind 3 years down the the line its ridiculous, just a typical millers signing.

 

[SMH]

Sorry to repeat the obvious but how has Dexter Blackstock managed to blag a three year deal with a Championship side? Someone give his agent a pay rise.

 

[Another Walkley Owl]

I don't necessarily disagree with that at all. I think I was just trying to play devil's advocate if I'm being honest. I know football is very tribal but no one wants to see Clubs in financial ruin like those I mentioned as it could easily happen to anyone that isn't part of the elite.

I believe it is somewhere in the region of that. We were very fortunate this year by being able to somehow sell our more valuable assets and taking their PL wages of the total wage bill. Often teams aren't so lucky and end up with players on high wages having had their stock fall to a point whereby no one is willing to pay for them. In turn, they've lost the majority of any TV deal they benefited from with largely the same squad.

Although I'm purely speculating, I don't think it's unfair to assume that when Blackpool were promoted, the players involved would have benefited from a large wage increase. Then when they were relegated the same season, they subsequently had a squad full of Championship players on wages, well beyond their means for the coming year. It's instances like this whereby it would be a useful tool.

Yes I completely agree that in the majority of cases it is down to poor due diligence from owners/managers but although I don't think it should be anywhere near the amount that it currently stands at, I do think it's possibly a sensible step to avoid Clubs falling apart.


*A lot of the above is not researched and in most cases I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

Love your disclaimer mate, if you were a business it would be hidden away in small print

 

[Haillay7]

Love your disclaimer mate, if you were a business it would be hidden away in small print

What can I say, I like to be very open when I have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Has Dexter Blackstock even played over the last 3 years can barely remember him scoring much.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Has Dexter Blackstock even played over the last 3 years can barely remember him scoring much.

Remember him scoring a late equaliser in a 1-1 draw at Molineux last season.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

10 goals in 59 games over the last three seasons.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Urby signed till the end of the season

 

[markwwfc1992]

Nicklas Bendtner going to Notts Forest. Would be a good signing in this league if he loses his ego.

 

[HarvSFC]

Thought he was quite good when he was last in this league with Birmingham, but his stats would suggest otherwise.

 

[Dirk]

Nicklas Bendtner going to Notts Forest. Would be a good signing in this league if he loses his ego.

That's the problem with "Lord" Bendtner. His ego doesn't match with his playing skills. This guy is pure poison for any good club atmosphere. Have seen this lately at Wolfsburg. Never seen this behaviour, unprofessionell to say the least.
But maybe he has realized now that he isn't the bright star he thought he was when he decided to play in a lower league. Maybe the "Lord" comes down to earth now (literally speaking)