Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[M Dogg]

In theory you could steamroll this league. Especially as you look to be addressing your centre half issues. I don't think Pearce is brilliant but he's solid and a step up from Buxton. Shackell's ageing but again, pretty solid if you get him.

That front 4 should be good for about 70 goals alone.

Just wonder what the wages of them will do to the rest of the team's morale. Again, I can tell you first hand what a lack of wage cap does. It sets a team back years because of the politics it can cause.

But history shows that, bar Forest, pretty much ever other ''big spender'' has managed to pull themselves up.

I just hope the football league act accordingly if you don't go up, because you are clearly going to blow these FFP limits out the water if these all go ahead (unless Hughes finally makes his move to Barca).

We've been made an example of retrospectively and from a position where it can't really harm us financially. I'd hope the same happens elsewhere.

 

[HarvSFC]

Rotherham were fortunate last season that Blackpool were in the division, who were a certainty for relegation the day they returned to pre-season, so Rotherham only had to do better than two more competitive teams to avoid relegation. Next season will be tougher for them.

 

[91SPP]

Good to see Derby investing millions in the players that oversaw their 1st to 8th place slide last year.

Also enjoying the change in tone from ''well we are within FFP'' to ''I'm am happy IF this is still within FFP''.

They're building a hell of a team mind, but we're the perfect example that money does not equal success. They don't have a crazy owner granted, but they do have a manager with less experience than Stuart Pearce.

Big year for them.

That's not quite true.
Darren Bent and Tom Ince were very good for us and to blame them for our plight is inaccurate in the extreme.

When both Bent and Martin were injured, we were lucky enough to see what would have happened if we had never signed him in the first place. Russell running around like a headless chicken trying to play a lone striker role, with Kwame Thomas in reserve.

Ince was our best player, by some distance, in the final third of the season. The workrate, the ability... everything really was just spot on! He was, still is, the signing I most wanted.

 

[Mr Elmo]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hendrick Sold to Villa for £5M or whatever it is they are reporting if they spend all that, which would make net spend a lot lower.

 

[M Dogg]

That's not quite true.
Darren Bent and Tom Ince were very good for us and to blame them for our plight is inaccurate in the extreme.

When both Bent and Martin were injured, we were lucky enough to see what would have happened if we had never signed him in the first place. Russell running around like a headless chicken trying to play a lone striker role, with Kwame Thomas in reserve.

Ince was our best player, by some distance, in the final third of the season. The workrate, the ability... everything really was just spot on! He was, still is, the signing I most wanted.

They scored lots of goals, but I think they changed your whole team dynamic and it's why you ended up shipping so many goals. Neither track back, neither hold the ball up and neither 'defend from the front', which Martin, amongst his other strengths as a striker, was very good at.

I'm not saying they're bad signings, they're obviously very talented players at this level and will score lots of goals, but you're going to have to sort your system out because since about February you changed your approach from an exciting but prudent team to something resembling Keegan's Newcastle (part 1)

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

If United send Nick Powell our way as well as Johnstone then I might stop thinking they're a horrible bunch of twats for a season at least.

With all due respect Nick Powell is finished. Turned up pissed at a charity event last week in Sandbach and was telling people how much he hates playing the game. Not the player of old.

 

[91SPP]

They scored lots of goals, but I think they changed your whole team dynamic and it's why you ended up shipping so many goals. Neither track back, neither hold the ball up and neither 'defend from the front', which Martin, amongst his other strengths as a striker, was very good at.

I'm not saying they're bad signings, they're obviously very talented players at this level and will score lots of goals, but you're going to have to sort your system out because since about February you changed your approach from an exciting but prudent team to something resembling Keegan's Newcastle (part 1)

See this is where the point is lost.

Ince did more tracking back than Ward, Russell, Lingard and Dawkins in the last third of the season and lost the ball a lot less than the former three as well. Ince wasn't the problem, he was a scapegoat for those outside looking in. He was perfect in our system, which got the best out of him. Anyone who watched us during his time here and still says he didn't track back has to be deaf, dumb and blind.

Martin got injured. Bent was on the bench until Martin got injured and once he was injured he never came back. The dynamic changed, sure, because he wasn't a lone striker and it wasn't his job. You ask Messi to play CM and you get a different Messi - you ask Bent to play as a lone striker, you get a different Bent. Nevertheless, he did an okay job under the circumstances. When he was injured and Russell came into that role, that's when the shit hit the fan.

Bent, Keogh, Ince and Hughes were the only four players to take any credit out of the last third of the season.

Grant, Forsyth, Christie, Albentosa, Shotton, Ward and Russell was where the blame truly lay. The four above were just guilty be association.

 

[Luke_1884]

Leeds last week, now Forest.

If our club was being ran like a shit house i'd be a little more concerned with our spending but as we have everything in order and our revenue is growing (unlike a few...) I'm pretty confident we'll be in a decent position in a few years time - PL or not.

 

[M Dogg]

I thought Ward was your best player last season. Completely unfair to say otherwise and it just sounds a bit bitter actually.

 

[SamScfc]

Can't believe Derby are spending £2m on Weimann. What a shite player.

 

[Luke_1884]

I do hope nobody rises to that badboy....

And Sam... not sure if serious.

 

[M Dogg]

Weimann is a very good player. Surprised someone who just went up or Leicester/Sunderland etc aren't having a nosy for that price.

 

[Mansfield_Ram]

Agree with everything M Dogg says.

Part of me is a little dissapointed that we are no longer the team who have worked within FFP and done well but we are either at worst disregarding the rules or pushing it to its limits.

We are setting up to be a very good counter attacking football team though if we play to our strengths.

Selling Hendrick, Keogh, shotton seems likely though.

 

[Mr Elmo]

I don't see a problem with it, it's just changing what our ambition/attitude was and it's not like we're spending badly because we'll be spending money on proven players

 

[Millerbri]

Rotherham were fortunate last season that Blackpool were in the division, who were a certainty for relegation the day they returned to pre-season, so Rotherham only had to do better than two more competitive teams to avoid relegation. Next season will be tougher for them.

I hate to piss on your parade but we finished 5 points clear of the bottom 3.
8 really if an office employee had sent Rawson's loan extension form off on time.
That would have put us above Brighton.

But don't worry no doubt we will be flirting with the bottom 3 again next season.
Maybe we will get what we deserve this time eh.

 

[Luke_1884]

Part of me is a little disappointed that we are no longer the team who have worked within FFP and done well

I missed that bit Mansfield?

We did do well to finally rid ourselves of utter overpaid shite like Savage and co if that's what you're getting at. Wouldn't describe below par, mid-table finishes as doing well...

 

[The Southbank]

Because we can't afford naff all, it seems Jamie Mackie is going back to the fakes. Great...

 

[Mansfield_Ram]

I missed that bit Mansfield?

We did do well to finally rid ourselves of utter overpaid shite like Savage and co if that's what you're getting at. Wouldn't describe below par, mid-table finishes as doing well...

I'm more focused on the last two seasons tbh rather than Clough years, although that shaped the development of the team to become what it is today/last season

 

[M Dogg]

Mackie and his £25k a week are back off to QPR.

Thanks Rangers but... When will you learn?!

 

[Rammy]

You pay Jamie Mackie 25k a week? JAMIE MACKIE?!? Jeez!

 

[M Dogg]

On a side note Sheepies- what do you think Nigel is capable of if he was similarly backed like schteve?

 

[M Dogg]

You pay Jamie Mackie 25k a week? JAMIE MACKIE?!? Jeez!

Our wage bill is frightening

Tesche, Wilson, Mancienne, Abdoun all on 20k each. Can't imagine Hobbs, Lansbury are cheap either.

 

[Rammy]

Abdoun

 

[Rammy]

On a side note Sheepies- what do you think Nigel is capable of if he was similarly backed like schteve?

Nothing. When he was given money, he bought Conor fucking Sammon for £1.2m.

 

[M Dogg]

fair play

 

[Madejski]

Because we can't afford naff all, it seems Jamie Mackie is going back to the fakes. Great...

As much as I would want him back, he's not worth the wages he was on at Forest, or QPR can afford. Do think he was a little overrated with his time here, particularly based on the second half of the season, first half he did nothing.

 

[Luke_1884]

I'm more focused on the last two seasons tbh rather than Clough years, although that shaped the development of the team to become what it is today/last season

The thing is though our approach to FFP changed 2 years ago when we sacked Nige and appointed SMc on a whack of a contract, funded all those loans of high profile PL youth players and then signed our current squad on long and healthy contracts... none of which we did under Nige and for the previous few years. Every transfer window we have stepped up our ambition. I'm sure you know but accounts are always for the previous years when released so we'll see next time how much we're pushing. What we started under Steve wasn't sustainable and was always going to go north of FFP, we've been very coy with our dealings up until the change of the rules you have to say.

I see what you're saying as there has been an obvious step up again in our intentions this summer as we're on about smashing our transfer record fee for one, I do think we have some pretty good guys in charge in Rush/GSE/Mel Morris who will always have the clubs best interests at heart so I'm ok with it for now. This football club has been run very well for the past 7 years and I hope it continues.

On a side note Sheepies- what do you think Nigel is capable of if he was similarly backed like schteve?

Probably something similar to how he fared at Sheff U last season, wasteful and very one dimensional. Predictable, cautious.. whilst I think Nige did a very good job of steadying our ship (and United's) he's left lacking when it comes to the crunch time.
I think it's pretty clear that our board didn't trust him with the cash Steve and now Clement have at their disposals and rightly so. He was very hit and miss in the transfer market.

 

[Mansfield_Ram]

Agree with most of that Luke but I thought that with Gadsby but looked how that turned out.

Rush has publicly said last season under mclaren we are within FFP. Unless Hughes or a few more are leaving to finance these sales then I'm worried we'll mirror QPR. I don't want that.

 

[Mr Elmo]

We won't mirror QPR, maybe we'll go over a bit but they have took it to the extreme, they had a higher wage bill than Athletico Madrid, we'll never get close to that while the people we have running stay, fortunately.

 

[Dazza]

Because we can't afford naff all, it seems Jamie Mackie is going back to the fakes. Great...

You are so annoyed about it you had to tell us twice.No surprise we didnt try and get him.Would have liked him at Reading as he was one of the few attacking players who made an effort last season.At the moment we are stuck with lazy shits like Kanu and the shit fucking Russian up front who scored a grand total of 7 goals last season.

I am sure our Thai leaders will spend a small amount of money soon.