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On a serious note I'll believe it when I see it, the same happened with Talisca. This guy is the youngest player to ever captain a champions league club, he could get any european club he wanted so I dont see why the hell he'd want to come to Wolves.
 

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Bottom's going to fall out eventually at Wolves unless Costa is sold - this time next year they'll be under an embargo unless they make some back. About £50m Fosun has spent on the club already isn't it?
 

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Bottom's going to fall out eventually at Wolves unless Costa is sold - this time next year they'll be under an embargo unless they make some back. About £50m Fosun has spent on the club already isn't it?

If Neves signs it will be for anything ranging from 14-20m according to Portugese media

Costa - 13m
Cavaliero - 7m
Saiss - 3m
Miranda - 2.6m
Oniangue - 2m
Marshall 1.5m
Bodvarsson -1m
Douglas - 1m

Yeah, not far off 50m if Neves comes, and more planning to come before the start of the season. I wouldn't be suprised if it reaches 70m before September in all honesty.

From a financial perspective it's scary, the club has never spent beyond it's means before Fosun arrived, and now we are completely dependent on them. If we don't get promoted within a couple of years they could pull the plug and then we're fucked, and could go the way Portsmouth have gone (or worse). It's exciting times for the fans now, but that could easily change.
 
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Wolves' chairman was quoted as saying "I don't agree with FFP" so I guess they're just going to ignore it. Porto need to sell to meet FFP regs and Mendes is Neves' agent, that's the only reason it could possibly happen as far as I can tell. I think Wolves are fine with FFP atm anyway. As I understand it it works in a 3 year cycle and they made a profit before the takeover. Bought debt free and they're allowed to be in some debt as long as it's healthy/manageable. Which it definitely is if they get Neves for as little as £15mil. If they get in any trouble they can just sell him and Costa at a profit.
 

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Seems that of the FOUR West Midland clubs that are Chinese owned.
Two are maverick spenders and ignorant or indifferent to FFP
Villa ~ Wolves.
One is reluctant to fund outside of earnings
Baggies
One with the longest history of Chinese ownership has only just in the last year, spent money on a transfer fee ~ ~ since 2010-11

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Seems that of the FOUR West Midland clubs that are Chinese owned.
One with the longest history of Chinese ownership has only just in the last year, spent money on a transfer fee ~ ~ since 2010-11

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Probably didn't help that Carson Yeung was banged up for 6 years.
 

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Breaking the FFP rules is cheating. I don't like it. I didn't like it with QPR and I don't like it if we do it.

Personally, I like that Wolves has been financially prudent down the years. Look at the last few years: we're at the top when it comes to profit and lack of debt. A few seasons splashing the cash and breaking the rules doesn't look so good when the novelty wears off and the owners swap your club for a blonde chick and a 600' long yacht. Ask Pompey fans what they think of it all.

I don't know what's worse: novelty club owners who don't spend much (mainly chicken processors), novelty club owners who turn out to be dodgier than the club they bought, or novelty club owners who spend way too much. In my day, football club owners were all called Stan or Derek and drove around in an XJS and were freemasons.
 

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On the other hand, totally fucking surreal if we end up with Dave Edwards and Ruben Neves alongside each other. Conceptually like Lewis Hamilton teaming up with Del-boy Trotter

Our transfer business so far is also stating that probably every defender at the club who has been here longer than 4 weeks is up for sale. I know most of them are bloody useless but i'll still be sad to see them leave. I think especially Iorfa, Hause and Doherty could be players that bite us on the arse down the line and go onto better things. Batth is useless but he's a local boy and he bleeds Wolves, can't really imagine him anywhere else.
 

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Our transfer business so far is also stating that probably every defender at the club who has been here longer than 4 weeks is up for sale. I know most of them are bloody useless but i'll still be sad to see them leave. I think especially Iorfa, Hause and Doherty could be players that bite us on the arse down the line and go onto better things. Batth is useless but he's a local boy and he bleeds Wolves, can't really imagine him anywhere else.

The previous back line of Doherty/Coady/Iorfa - Batth/Ebanks-Landell/Williamson/ Hause - xxxxx would have matured...although no left-back really. I think we are letting somewhat tried and tested young talent go (because they won't want to stay) and replace them with international journeymen.

I am excited for the future (the Neves deal is just mind-blowing, and it's a while since any part of me has been blown tbh) but I am also anxious. It feels a little bit like we are becoming a shop window. If they do well, then Costa, Cavaleiro, etc will be sold on for £25 million. Many will benefit, but will the club? The Douglas and Bennett deals seem like very good business; the Ofosu-Ayeh transfer looks like one of those free bets we got for registering on the Eintracht Braunschweig mailing list. But Neves? Willy Boly? I heard last night that Neves isn't even considered our marquee signing: there's a striker being lined up.

I see taxis being ordered for Dicko (to a L1 club...Pompey? Wigan?), Batth (Villa? Cardiff?), Ebanks-Landell (Blades), Edwards (L1), Evans (L1 or Cardiff?), Mason (Championship club), Bodvarsson (someone in Norway or Denmark). Not so sure about Ben Marshall, Coady and Jack Price.

We live in interesting and expensive times.
 

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Bottom's going to fall out eventually at Wolves unless Costa is sold - this time next year they'll be under an embargo unless they make some back. About £50m Fosun has spent on the club already isn't it?

Why? The rules work over 3 years now, not a single season. If, for example, Helder Costa is sold for £25m eventually (not entirely beyond the realms of imagination), the £12m profit on that covers the spend on all the others in Mark's list above, bar Cavaleiro. To date, that would leave us with a £7m 'debt'. But then that assumes no money recouped for the likes of Iorfa, Batth, possibly Hause and the £42.99 we'll get for Joe Mason. There's also some good, valuable young talent that may well move on (Enobakhare, Zyro, Jordan Graham)...possibly only a million or two for each.

It's also worth remembering that Wolves have been run at a profit or no debt. We are one of the least indebted clubs in the country. And that includes most of the PL.
 

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Our transfer business so far is also stating that probably every defender at the club who has been here longer than 4 weeks is up for sale. I know most of them are bloody useless but i'll still be sad to see them leave. I think especially Iorfa, Hause and Doherty could be players that bite us on the arse down the line and go onto better things. Batth is useless but he's a local boy and he bleeds Wolves, can't really imagine him anywhere else.
Interesting that in many of the YouTube videos, Neves is clearly playing in the middle at the back rather than in midfield.
 

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The recent changes in FFP have made it far more flexible and open to manipulation and interpretation by owners, compared for example to when we failed it and had to cough up a small fine. It can be judged over a 3 year period with larger amounts of spending now allowed, clubs can move money around the balance sheet from year to year. Whilst it's still a set of rules rooted originally in some semblance of good intention, it's now a very elastic set of rules. I would be very surprised if any clubs fails this latest iteration of FFP.
 

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Why? The rules work over 3 years now, not a single season. If, for example, Helder Costa is sold for £25m eventually (not entirely beyond the realms of imagination), the £12m profit on that covers the spend on all the others in Mark's list above, bar Cavaleiro. To date, that would leave us with a £7m 'debt'. But then that assumes no money recouped for the likes of Iorfa, Batth, possibly Hause and the £42.99 we'll get for Joe Mason. There's also some good, valuable young talent that may well move on (Enobakhare, Zyro, Jordan Graham)...possibly only a million or two for each.

It's also worth remembering that Wolves have been run at a profit or no debt. We are one of the least indebted clubs in the country. And that includes most of the PL.

Forgot about Marshall to be honest, and indeed Mason. I really hope Marshall stays but it's hard to see him staying with a manager who has never seen him and is bringing in his own players. He would be a steal for any team in this league. Mason would do a job somewhere too, Reading/Bristol City/QPR perhaps?

Zyro another along with Graham who will both come into the fold this season. Just shows how big our squad has been, filled with deadwood.

The recent changes in FFP have made it far more flexible and open to manipulation and interpretation by owners, compared for example to when we failed it and had to cough up a small fine. It can be judged over a 3 year period with larger amounts of spending now allowed, clubs can move money around the balance sheet from year to year. Whilst it's still a set of rules rooted originally in some semblance of good intention, it's now a very elastic set of rules. I would be very surprised if any clubs fails this latest iteration of FFP.

Offtopic but are there any rumours your end about Afobe? just seen Skybet have us favourites to sign him back from you. Doubt he'll get a look in with Defoe, King and Wilson.
 

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Offtopic but are there any rumours your end about Afobe? just seen Skybet have us favourites to sign him back from you. Doubt he'll get a look in with Defoe, King and Wilson.

I have seen it mooted in rumour, but don't know how concrete it is.

I'd actually be very sad to lose him. For all his clumsiness and need to miss 3 chances before he scores at this level, he's does so much more for the team and is a different option to anything else we have, He's well liked and a bit of a fan favourite here despite being frustrating at times. The form of Josh King is in no small part down to Afobe's help in tying up defenders with his presence.

I think if Wolves did come in, it would depend on what Afobe wanted. Yes he's not always going to be starting here although he gets his fair share because he's good enough and a different type of forward. But if he said to Howe that he wanted to move back and be part of what Wolves have going on now, starting more often - then I think we'd listen to whatever Wolves had to offer.
 

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The previous back line of Doherty/Coady/Iorfa - Batth/Ebanks-Landell/Williamson/ Hause - xxxxx would have matured...although no left-back really. I think we are letting somewhat tried and tested young talent go (because they won't want to stay) and replace them with international journeymen.

I am excited for the future (the Neves deal is just mind-blowing, and it's a while since any part of me has been blown tbh) but I am also anxious. It feels a little bit like we are becoming a shop window. If they do well, then Costa, Cavaleiro, etc will be sold on for £25 million. Many will benefit, but will the club? The Douglas and Bennett deals seem like very good business; the Ofosu-Ayeh transfer looks like one of those free bets we got for registering on the Eintracht Braunschweig mailing list. But Neves? Willy Boly? I heard last night that Neves isn't even considered our marquee signing: there's a striker being lined up.

I see taxis being ordered for Dicko (to a L1 club...Pompey? Wigan?), Batth (Villa? Cardiff?), Ebanks-Landell (Blades), Edwards (L1), Evans (L1 or Cardiff?), Mason (Championship club), Bodvarsson (someone in Norway or Denmark). Not so sure about Ben Marshall, Coady and Jack Price.

We live in interesting and expensive times.
Edwards in L1? Your best midfielder isn't he? Would easily find a club at this level, I'd have him because we need a midfielder that can actually score more than one league cup goal per season.
 

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I have seen it mooted in rumour, but don't know how concrete it is.

I'd actually be very sad to lose him. For all his clumsiness and need to miss 3 chances before he scores at this level, he's does so much more for the team and is a different option to anything else we have, He's well liked and a bit of a fan favourite here despite being frustrating at times. The form of Josh King is in no small part down to Afobe's help in tying up defenders with his presence.

I think if Wolves did come in, it would depend on what Afobe wanted. Yes he's not always going to be starting here although he gets his fair share because he's good enough and a different type of forward. But if he said to Howe that he wanted to move back and be part of what Wolves have going on now, starting more often - then I think we'd listen to whatever Wolves had to offer.

I'd love him back but can't see it to be honest. He was a player from the Jackett/Morgan era and we seem to be going in a completely new direction to that now. Nuno will want to bring in his own players, personally I think it will be Vincent Aboubakar.
 

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Aiden McGeady very likely to sign for Sunderland. The shock!

No chance he was coming back here, hopefully Harrop or Horgan can step into his shoes.
 

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