Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[El Guapo]

McCormack is supposedly getting a second chance, Kozak has been released, Sanchez has been sold, and Gabby is in the last year of his contract and has a 745,451st chance. It's a team with a year (6 months for some) of playing together now too rather than being hastily thrown together. I'm far more confident this season than I was last.

Oh right, fair enough. Was just going by what I saw on your Wiki page and Kozak and Sanchez were still on it.

 

[El Guapo]

That's assuming the 3-5 don't have a transfer fee to pay as well though.

David Stockdale didn't. He just got promoted with Brighton and made the Championship team of the season. Their are good frees out there, probably more abroad?

 

[El Guapo]

And you were happy with the decision to sack Gary Rowett when you were 7th - swings and roundabouts.

I was and look at us now, Harry's got us aiming for the top, the feel good factor is back at long last. Sometimes you just got to take one step back to take two forward.

 

[joethegill]

David Stockdale didn't. He just got promoted with Brighton and made the Championship team of the season. Their are good frees out there, probably more abroad?

But signing 5 free transfers of top quality I would argue is easier said than done. Stockdale looked great when he shovelled Grealish's pea-roller into his own net on the final day....

 

[El Guapo]

But signing 5 free transfers of top quality I would argue is easier said than done. Stockdale looked great when he shovelled Grealish's pea-roller into his own net on the final day....

You can walk your whole life but people will always stumble every now and then, even the best goalkeeper in the Championship

 

[joethegill]

You can walk your whole life but people will always stumble every now and then, even the best goalkeeper in the Championship

In fairness I don't mind Stockdale, but I wouldn't consider him the number one in the league. Had an excellent defence in front of him which had more of an impact for Brightons defensive record in my opinion. Solid keeper though.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

You can walk your whole life but people will always stumble every now and then, even the best goalkeeper in the Championship

What's it got to do with Keiren Westwood?

 

[Bobbin']

I wasn't intending to give Villa 'any crap' Jase, just questioning the reasons for the signing. As you say, £3M isn't a great amount for Villa as it might be for the rest of us. I just don't see the logic of paying him whatever he's earning when he's on a downward spiral, that's all.

Is JT on a downward spiral?

I don't think so. He's just finished his last season with Chelsea with a PL medal round his neck. He's obviously not up to playing a pivotal role for a side aiming to win the title and European Cup but he is certainly capable of staying and playing in the PL. I just don't think PL teams wanted to take the punt on him as then it probably is a 'waste of time'. Bournemouth were linked for example, what could John Terry do at Bournemouth to make them anything other than a bottom half side? He's not going to be the difference between them being relegation candidates and top 4 candidates so they're not going to spend that money on one player.

It's a good move for a side like Villa. If they build a good side and get one good season out of JT, then that could be the difference between promotion or staying down and it suddenly looks like money well spent.

Besides, in this market. 3 million for a proven Premier League, Champions League etc centre half isn't that bad.

 

[QPR_Matt]

Lazio have allowed Ravel Morrison to train with us. If he has finally screwed his head on it could be a great signing. But can't hold hope looking at his track record. A third of his total appearances have come when he was on loan to us back in 2014

He should be so good but his attitude still hasn't changed. He couldn't get in our team and we are shit.

 

[SMH]

I sense a lot of jealously from opposition fans over this JT deal. I'm not surprised either, class signing.

 

[MagpieBee]

I always find the "if you can't beat them, join them" philosophy hilarious and ridiculous.

You only have to look at us, with three consequtive Top 10 finishes, and Preston to realise that that policy is stupid.

 

[JJH]

I was and look at us now, Harry's got us aiming for the top, the feel good factor is back at long last. Sometimes you just got to take one step back to take two forward.

That's only because you're chucking some coin about Redknapp hasn't funded it himself. If you'd have backed Rowett in January with similar funds you could've been in the Premier League now.

 

[MagpieBee]

Should Villa have invested the £3m of Terry's wages on 3 to 5 other good Championship players? It could be the difference in making the top six or finishing mid-table again.

On this, I really doubt you'd get 3-5 other Championship players. We offer our best guys near £15k a week, a quarter of what JT will be on, and that's nowhere near enough to keep them. They'd be lucky to get two, and that's not including transfer fees.

Personally, much as I hate the guy, and the money floating around this league, at £60k per week, it's a good deal. Especially if they feel they have the squad to go up.

 

[MagpieBee]

Cue me sounding arrogant, but I don't think that's the issue.

We need a couple of wingers, a keeper and someone to back-up/replace Jedi and we'll be looking at Top 6 any way. We have/will have the money to do that regardless of Terry, Veretout and Gil are both expected to be sold soon, whilst Tshibola, Richards and Cissokho are also on the market, that money with the extra (it's not £1million despite what the papers have been spouting) will more than cover what we are likely to spend on that. A line-up looking like this:

Bunn
De Laet Chester Terry Taylor
Jedi
Hourihane Lansbury
Adomah --------------------- Green
Kodjia​

should be looking at top 6 regardless, and that's without any more new signings added. That is, imo, the best team we can field, and should be looking at being up there without additions, that's not to say as we don't need any.

Got to agree with this, let's say instead they offered one player 20k per week, which would probably be the absolute minimum to get someone who could displace someone in this team.

That leaves you with 40k per week leftover from what you could have given JT, which is roughly £2m over a season. I don't know a single CB who is Championship ready (let alone someone who is clearly still good enough for the PL) who'd be available for anything near £2m. Regardless, if he's a flop, they're only liable for wages for one year.

It's a fucking brilliant deal if you ask me.

 

[MagpieBee]

David Stockdale didn't. He just got promoted with Brighton and made the Championship team of the season. Their are good frees out there, probably more abroad?

Players available on a free know their value, and typically come with pretty large signing on fees that don't get reported.

Just because someone is a "free", don't believe for a second they don't cost a reasonable amount. Less than a normal transfer for sure, but to be getting 3-5 for the same amount you pay for JT, you aren't offering any of them much of a fee, you certainly won't be getting decent Championship players.

 

[Ciderup]

Is JT on a downward spiral?

I don't think so. He's just finished his last season with Chelsea with a PL medal round his neck.

All about opinions Bobbin. Considering Chelsea manufactured enough appearance for him to get a PL medal, I don't really take last season into account. If Villa feel it's worth the outlay then all strength to them but I would think he'll play around half their games.
I certainly am not criticising anyone as he was one hell of a player but feel it's money wasted but that's just my opinion. This reminds me of a lower division journeyman getting one last move to earn more money just on a bigger scale.
I'm probably wrong but that's my view, if it's proven to be wrong, I will, as always, hold my hands up.

 

[markwwfc1992]

To be fair we played against Chelsea in the cup last season and Helda Costa couldn't get a sniff against John Terry. Not many defenders in the league could say the same last season.

Got to agree with this, let's say instead they offered one player 20k per week, which would probably be the absolute minimum to get someone who could displace someone in this team.

That leaves you with 40k per week leftover from what you could have given JT, which is roughly £2m over a season. I don't know a single CB who is Championship ready (let alone someone who is clearly still good enough for the PL) who'd be available for anything near £2m. Regardless, if he's a flop, they're only liable for wages for one year.

It's a fucking brilliant deal if you ask me.

I disagree, I think you could get a ready made championship CB for 2m. He maybe bang on average but you'd more than likely get Danny Batth for around 2m. Plenty of others too.

 

[Ciderup]

To be fair we played against Chelsea in the cup last season and Helda Costa couldn't get a sniff against John Terry. Not many defenders in the league could say the same last season.

Fair comment Mark. If I'm wrong, I will admit it. Can he play Tuesday - Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday etc? I'm not sure TBH.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Fair comment Mark. If I'm wrong, I will admit it. Can he pay Tuesday - Saturday - Tuesday - Saturday etc? I'm not sure TBH.

Yeah, I can't see him playing many midweek games. The classic cliche too, can he do it up at Barnsley on a freezing cold Tuesday night?

 

[MagpieBee]

To be fair we played against Chelsea in the cup last season and Helda Costa couldn't get a sniff against John Terry. Not many defenders in the league could say the same last season.



I disagree, I think you could get a ready made championship CB for 2m. He maybe bang on average but you'd more than likely get Danny Batth for around 2m. Plenty of others too.

Still, the point stands unless you'd rather have Batth than Terry?

I doubt £2m would get you Batth anyway, I assume you guys would look for £4m+

 

[markwwfc1992]

Still, the point stands unless you'd rather have Batth than Terry?

I doubt £2m would get you Batth anyway, I assume you guys would look for £4m+

Terry would be much better, wasn't disputing that part of your post but I do think 2m can get you a decent enough CB at this level. You could probably get Batth for 2m though. We only rate him because he is one of our academy products, if you take that aside he is just another run in the mill Championship standard defender.. feel free to make a bid

 

[Bobbin']

All about opinions Bobbin. Considering Chelsea manufactured enough appearance for him to get a PL medal, I don't really take last season into account. If Villa feel it's worth the outlay then all strength to them but I would think he'll play around half their games.
I certainly am not criticising anyone as he was one hell of a player but feel it's money wasted but that's just my opinion. This reminds me of a lower division journeyman getting one last move to earn more money just on a bigger scale.
I'm probably wrong but that's my view, if it's proven to be wrong, I will, as always, hold my hands up.

Absolutely mate and that's why we're all here.

I appreciate some of your earlier concerns about Terry but I think comparing him to a 'lower division journeyman' looking for one last pay-out is a bit over the top though. The bloke is a class act and is comfortably the best defender in this division now. I doubt he'll be able to play 46 games but it's down to Steve Bruce to utilise him properly and know when to rest him.

If it was all about one last pay day, surely he would have been better off going to America or China where I'm sure offers would have been aplenty. If anything, he's taken a pay cut hasn't he?

Would you be saying the same about Gerrard or Lampard had they decided to drop down to this division a couple of years ago?

Terry would be much better, wasn't disputing that part of your post but I do think 2m can get you a decent enough CB at this level. You could probably get Batth for 2m though. We only rate him because he is one of our academy products, if you take that aside he is just another run in the mill Championship standard defender.. feel free to make a bid

Think a lot of people are undervaluing what Terry brings. First of all, Terry is obviously a far superior defender than any other available at £2-3mil. He brings 20 years of experience of playing at the highest level which players around him will benefit from. He brings leadership and most importantly, especially for Villa at the moment, he brings a winning mentailty and doesn't accept losing. Danny Batth and the like offer none of these things.

 

[JJH]

Boyd's a good signing, must've been offered a fair bit to turn Burnley down then Walkley?

 

[markwwfc1992]

Absolutely mate and that's why we're all here.

I appreciate some of your earlier concerns about Terry but I think comparing him to a 'lower division journeyman' looking for one last pay-out is a bit over the top though. The bloke is a class act and is comfortably the best defender in this division now. I doubt he'll be able to play 46 games but it's down to Steve Bruce to utilise him properly and know when to rest him.

If it was all about one last pay day, surely he would have been better off going to America or China where I'm sure offers would have been aplenty. If anything, he's taken a pay cut hasn't he?

Would you be saying the same about Gerrard or Lampard had they decided to drop down to this division a couple of years ago?



Think a lot of people are undervaluing what Terry brings. First of all, Terry is obviously a far superior defender than any other available at £2-3mil. He brings 20 years of experience of playing at the highest level which players around him will benefit from. He brings leadership and most importantly, especially for Villa at the moment, he brings a winning mentailty and doesn't accept losing. Danny Batth and the like offer none of these things.

Just to clarify again I wasn't diputing the Terry part of his post, infact in my first post I praised him. The only part of the post i commented on was that you can get a Championship CB for 2m, nothing to do with John Terry.

 

[Bobbin']

Just to clarify again I wasn't diputing the Terry part of his post, infact in my first post I praised him. The only part of the post i commented on was that you can get a Championship CB for 2m, nothing to do with John Terry.

I know you weren't mate, I was just using your post to further highlight what you're getting for only £2mil in John Terry.

 

[MagpieBee]

Boyd's a good signing, must've been offered a fair bit to turn Burnley down then Walkley?

I think it was more that Burnley only offered a one year deal, while Wednesday offered two.

 

[QPR_Matt]

Lazio have allowed Ravel Morrison to train with us. If he has finally screwed his head on it could be a great signing. But can't hold hope looking at his track record. A third of his total appearances have come when he was on loan to us back in 2014

He should be so good but his attitude still hasn't changed. He couldn't get in our team and we are shit.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Boyd's a good signing, must've been offered a fair bit to turn Burnley down then Walkley?

Think it was more to do with us offering a two year deal and them a one mate.

 

[HertsWolf]

I have seen it mooted in rumour, but don't know how concrete it is.

I'd actually be very sad to lose him. ........ But if he said to Howe that he wanted to move back and be part of what Wolves have going on now, starting more often - then I think we'd listen to whatever Wolves had to offer.

Afobe's not expensive enough for us. Small town player. Doesn't speak Portuguese. DOD (Dissed us On Departure). Keep him.

 

[HertsWolf]

It will work out for the best if Terry edges them closer to financial ruin.

Agreed. You've already been pulled well over that line. We're careering towards it.