Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[Ciderup]

Sorry Ciderup, what is WTGR?

'With the greatest respect' fella.
Come on, I'm in my 6th decade and even i know that one!

 

[markwwfc1992]

'With the greatest respect' fella.
Come on, I'm in my 6th decade and even i know that one!

I googled it to no avail

 

[BCFC David]

I googled it to no avail

 

[PrestonCha]

I always find the "if you can't beat them, join them" philosophy hilarious and ridiculous.

You only have to look at us, with three consequtive Top 10 finishes, and Preston to realise that that policy is stupid.

Totally agree. It's turned football into something akin to a fucking computer game for super rich foreign dodgy cvnt ego maniacs. Bringing with them the equally dodgy "super agents" and their mercenary clients (players)

How can this be a good thing? I honestly don't get it.

It was only a couple of months ago that markwwfc was bemoaning the state of "modern football" - yet now he's buzzing because the dodgy fuckers at his club are doing it on an even more ridiculous scale than some of the early trend setters.

Get to fuck. I hope it goes spectacularly minge up for Wolves.

 

[markwwfc1992]

It was only a couple of months ago that markwwfc was bemoaning the state of "modern football" - yet now he's buzzing because the dodgy fuckers at his club are doing it on an even more ridiculous scale than some of the early trend setters.

Get to fuck. I hope it goes spectacularly minge up for Wolves.

Bemoaning modern state of football... What? Mind fetching some quotes where I've said this? I've said countless times that I'm cautious of this approach. Read up on any post about this takeover I've made and whilst these are exciting times for the club, I am cautious about where it will lead us down the line.

Also dodgy fuckers, please? What rules have we broken? It wasn't long ago that we were the only debt free club in this division (along with Burnley) and now some fans are throwing the toys out of the pram because we're spending a bit of money?

Some of these does come across as really bitter from you. If this was happening to your club I know for a fact that you would be lapping it up as much as anyone else.

 

[QPR_Matt]

I remember, not by your good self, a fair bit of gloating on the old forum that the R's had pulled a fast one. As I remember it, the PL and the EFL are governed separately so the fine was lodged, once you were relegated. by the EFL? That would point to breaking the rules while in the EFL wouldn't it?
What's the current situation then as this was a massive fine and a long time ago now?

We were meant to hear in May, then June and still nothing. Our shareholders wrote off 60 million of losses as well but not sure if that counts towards it or not.

So in short, we are none the wiser. All our interviews are saying about having this hang over our heads and that we should hear soon.

 

[PrestonCha]

Fuck off Mark, you've whinged like fuck in the past about the direction football was heading in.

Now your club's at it, you can't wait to tell everyone just which ridiculous deal you're lining up this week.

You think you're Tony Montana.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Anyway I was right Tammy Abraham has gone abroad.


He's signed for Swansea.

 

[SF_]

What will become of Tommy Elphick at Villa now I wonder? Too good to not get a game somewhere at this level.

Might be a bit too far up north for him and wage contributions would be an issue but i'd happily take him on loan, would fill the void left by Tom Clarke's injury.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Fuck off Mark, you've whinged like fuck in the past about the direction football was heading in.

Now your club's at it, you can't wait to tell everyone just which ridiculous deal you're lining up this week.

You think you're Tony Montana.

Yes, my first observation was right, very bitter indeed.

I was critical of clubs overspending beyond their means, was that the point you were going for? I was critical of Bournemouth overspending in the Championship which they were fined for. Quite justified for that. We have shown no signs of failing FFP as of now as the rules have changed and it's now on a 3 year cycle (hell if you offset our player sales to our current signings it really isn't that high at all). Sheff Wed, Aston Villa, Newcastle all spent around the same we did last season or more.

I'd love to see your stance on this if Preston were ever to be taken over and spent big on players. Times change. Money has significantly increased in football over recent years. We are simply adapting it it

Also I assure you I'm not Tony Montana, I would just like to clarify this

 

[Bobbin']

Big 'IF' WTGR VL. He hardly played last season but it remains to be seen how often he actually plays. If it works, fair play but I'm sure you understand our scepticism.

One last point/question. Please don't think I'm just picking on your every post on this matter but John Terry is a proven world class centre back. You know what you're getting from him, if he's fit, he's the best defender in this league bar none.

Do you think spending £2-3mil on him is any more of a risk than spending £5mil on an unknown striker who has largely only played in the French second division?

 

[markwwfc1992]

Infact when I get home I'll make a thread on player in/out transfer fees over the last couple of years. Quite curious to see how clubs stack up on that front.

 

[JJH]

Anyway I was right Tammy Abraham has gone abroad.


He's signed for Swansea.

was gonna find your quote and say the same.

Cracking signing, chose Swansea ahead of Newcastle and Brighton.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Fuck me the words "World Class" should never be used to describe any England player of the last 30 years, never mind John Terry.

Terry is a very very good defender but to me World Class defines the very very best, like Maldini etc

 

[SF_]

Infact when I get home I'll make a thread on player in/out transfer fees over the last couple of years. Quite curious to see how clubs stack up on that front.

Rather you than me, about 1% of transfers are disclosed these days.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Yes, my first observation was right, very bitter indeed.

I was critical of clubs overspending beyond their means, was that the point you were going for? I was critical of Bournemouth overspending in the Championship which they were fined for. Quite justified for that. We have shown no signs of failing FFP as of now as the rules have changed and it's now on a 3 year cycle (hell if you offset our player sales to our current signings it really isn't that high at all). Sheff Wed, Aston Villa, Newcastle all spent around the same we did last season or more.

I'd love to see your stance on this if Preston were ever to be taken over and spent big on players. Times change. Money has significantly increased in football over recent years. We are simply adapting it it

Also I assure you I'm not Tony Montana, I would just like to clarify this

I'm not sure we spent at the levels you think Mark, there was something posted online that said we had the 9th highest spend but fucked if I can find it.

 

[Bobbin']

Fuck me the words "World Class" should never be used to describe any England player of the last 30 years, never mind John Terry.

Terry is a very very good defender but to me World Class defines the very very best, like Maldini etc

Point taken.

Looking at it in a different way then, there are very few English players that would make most sides in the world when at their very best, I think John Terry is one of the few to fall into that category - personally.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

I'm not sure he'd ever have played at Barca, Real or Juve......he isn't that good IMHO.

 

[SF_]

Has it gone tits up at Derby or something? Couldn't imagine them cashing in on players like Hughes and Ince a couple of seasons back.

 

[Ciderup]

One last point/question. Please don't think I'm just picking on your every post on this matter but John Terry is a proven world class centre back. You know what you're getting from him, if he's fit, he's the best defender in this league bar none.

Do you think spending £2-3mil on him is any more of a risk than spending £5mil on an unknown striker who has largely only played in the French second division?

He most certainly WAS a proven high class centre back but has barely played for 2 seasons so, no, we don't know what Villa are getting. It's not the JT that played for England and was magnificent and I repeat, the 'if' in 'if he's fit' would be a concern for me. As I said before, if it works for Villa, fair play to them.
No problem with you quoting me Bobbin, it's a forum after all fella.
As for our bloke, no, I've never heard of him either. What I do know is we signed Kodjia after 20 goals in ligue 2, This guy scored 25 at the same level and 8 in their top tier and is just 24. A big gamble I appreciate but he has age on his side I guess.

 

[JJH]

Has it gone tits up at Derby or something? Couldn't imagine them cashing in on players like Hughes and Ince a couple of seasons back.

Got to balance the books somehow with the £42m they've spent in the last few years, they've massively improved their defence but lost their best midfielder and attacker, they're going to draw 0-0 every week next season.

Fuck me the words "World Class" should never be used to describe any England player of the last 30 years, never mind John Terry.

Terry is a very very good defender but to me World Class defines the very very best, like Maldini etc

Completely agree with you, there hasn't been a world class English player in my lifetime, Beckham's the closest but I don't think he was world class.

A few say Kane is world class now but I disagree, he wouldn't get into a world XI.

 

[Ciderup]

Got to balance the books somehow with the £42m they've spent in the last few years, they've massively improved their defence but lost their best midfielder and attacker, they're going to draw 0-0 every week next season.


Completely agree with you, there hasn't been a world class English player in my lifetime, Beckham's the closest but I don't think he was world class.

A few say Kane is world class now but I disagree, he wouldn't get into a world XI.

Gazza was the last 'World class' Englishman IMHO. Beckham was close to be fair.

 

[PrestonCha]

Got to balance the books somehow with the £42m they've spent in the last few years, they've massively improved their defence but lost their best midfielder and attacker, they're going to draw 0-0 every week next season.


Completely agree with you, there hasn't been a world class English player in my lifetime, Beckham's the closest but I don't think he was world class.

A few say Kane is world class now but I disagree, he wouldn't get into a world XI.

Gerrard was genuinely world class in his prime, I reckon.

 

[Bobbin']

 

[JaseTheVillain]

When I wrote this a few weeks back, I thought Terry would sign for Birmingham, where I think he would have done a lot to push Birmingham upwards. Until they sack Redknapp after a ten match winning run or when they are 3rd or some kind of usual Brum board stupidity.

But I see at Villa a not dissimilar situation from what happened to us a few years back. They have come down with a band of PL divas (will long remember Agbonlahdickhead calling us "a local team" in a pre-season friendly not so long ago) and when results are poor, they all turn against each other and implode. In this situation, I believe JT's presence as first among equal PL legends will exacerbate the situation.

Whereas at Birmingham, JT would have been a magnet for improvement and stability. In a club forced to build upon the ashes of successive disastrous board and management failures, it feels like the only way is up.

So I think Terry has chosen the wrong club. It will be great to see someone of his class in this division, but I suspect that both Birmingham and us will have better defensive records than Villa this coming season.

I think personally what we've done is more akin to hiring a second assistant manager as well as player, I know it's been said that there's no coaching etc in it, but Terry will be like another manager on the pitch.

I disagree about Terry at Birmingham, Terry at Birmingham would have been more of a Ferdinand at QPR imo, I mean this could turn out the same way but we'll see.

Regarding your last point, I'd love to know where you got that from considering we had the 5th best defensive record in the league last season without the defensive stability others have talked about with Amavi getting injured, Cissokho coming in, getting dropped when we sign Taylor, Amavi getting another go, replaced again by Taylor, Elphick starting alongside Chester with Baker replacing him but getting injured every 5 minutes to Jedinak eventually playing in centre back, then at right back starting with Hutton, signing De Laet, replacing Hutton, De Laet getting injured, Hutton coming back, signing Bree and those two rotating..... Need I say more?? And we've just added another fantastic defender to that lot.

We conceded 10 less than your lot and 16 less than Birmingham, so I'm genuinely curious as to where your conclusion comes from? Defence was never the problem last season, the problem lay in creating chances... That's about it. Kodjia could put the ones we created away, Hogan needs to settle, McBigMac speaks for himself and then you have Agbonlahor....

What will become of Tommy Elphick at Villa now I wonder? Too good to not get a game somewhere at this level.

That's news to me. Not bad at first then he got scared of the ball... He was/is a little useless if I'm honest. Villa Loyal was a bit nicer in saying he's undecided. I hope he comes good, but he'll now be 4th choice at CB behind Terry, Chester and Baker.

 

[Ciderup]

That's quite a strong argument to be fair. How good would he have been if he hadn't wrecked his knee? A bit like Gazza I guess, how good would he have been without the knee injury?

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Gerrard wasn't world class either, just another overhyped by the press, don't get me wrong he was fucking good but wasn't fit to clean Paul Scholes boots.

 

[PrestonCha]

Nah, not having that at all. What did Scholes do that was so vastly superior to that of what Gerrard offered?

I'm not assed what the press said about him, I'm basing my opinion on what I saw of him with my own eyes.

As a CM, he had everything.

 

[JJH]

Gerrard was genuinely world class in his prime, I reckon.

What about Lampard? In my mind he was the best out of the three (Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard) but that's probably because he had such a strong end to his Chelsea career.

 

[Bobbin']

That's quite a strong argument to be fair. How good would he have been if he hadn't wrecked his knee? A bit like Gazza I guess, how good would he have been without the knee injury?

Ridiculously good.

Him, Shearer and Henry best finishers to have played in the Premier League. Big game player aswell, won Liverpool the cup in 2001 with two brilliant finishes. Even though we lost all three, he scored in all of the 1998, 2002 and 2004 international quarter finals.