York and Daggers Relegation Thread

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

I think I've seen York in about the three good games they've had as to me they looked as though they had a bit about them (relatively speaking). Dagenham on the other hand, I've seen a number of Conference clubs this season and I think I could only say for sure that I'd fancy them to finish above Kidderminster and Welling from the league below. Saw Guiseley a few weeks before I saw Dagenham for the first time and I was struck by how little difference there seemed in player quality between the two sides. They for sure need a massive clear out in the summer. I am still absolutely baffled as to how Jodi Jones doesn't get a starting role.

As for the gap in quality between the leagues, next season I wouldn't expect any of the promoted teams to be challenging for promotion like Bristol Rovers are this season with the squads they have. Forest Green possibly, but that's only because their financial clout would allow them to recruit.

 

[Luke Imp]

Not sure on FGR. They've spent that heavily that the wage cap in L2 would put the brakes on them I think.

 

[Look Out There Are Llamas]

Not sure on FGR. They've spent that heavily that the wage cap in L2 would put the brakes on them I think.

Unless it's dramatically changing there are a million loopholes around this. See Leyton Orient with a £5million+ wage budget last season...

 

[Brox]

We're fortunate once again that both York and Dagenham lost, so as you were albeit a game closer to the end. I suspect we'll look to appoint a manager next week - Cooper linked, although Maamria also an option having left Southport last week.

 

[Youpies]

We needed Fullarton to go and it's finally happened. I hope we start to play a bit more expansively now at home.

It can't get any worse than it was. We may actually get a couple of points. I reckon 45 will be enough this season the way things look

 

[Leewilson]

Cureton missed an open goal today. Go in at half time 1-0 up and it could have been a different story but alas, another goal conceded in the last 10 minutes.

It's just not going to turn for us this season. York or Stevenage for the final spot.

 

[womble76]

York are done. They will not win many more games. No quality in the side at all.

 

[TheMinsterman]

Yeah this thread isn't even a debate Lee, we're down with you. Had we beaten you, I'd honestly be up for discussing us possibly catching Stevenage, but our players have the mental stability of a paper tsunami defence wall, no fight whatsoever left in them.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Having had another look ...I think York may win Fri and Stevenage lose ...that will make things look different

 

[Murphy]

Only question for us now is which game we'll go down on. Orient/Wimbledon/Plymouth looking like one of the three. I'd prefer not be relegated at home if I had a choice.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Only question for us now is which game we'll go down on. Orient/Wimbledon/Plymouth looking like one of the three. I'd prefer not be relegated at home if I had a choice.

I'm trying to find a bit of light for you ...here goes ...Stevenage are going to pick up very few points I reckon in the next few games ..away to Yeovil is massive ...then they have Luton away ...its not impossible you could be within 4 or 5 points of them with 4 or 5 to go ... The season is over 46 games or 40

 

[Murphy]

I'm trying to find a bit of light for you ...here goes ...Stevenage are going to pick up very few points I reckon in the next few games ..away to Yeovil is massive ...then they have Luton away ...its not impossible you could be within 4 or 5 points of them with 4 or 5 to go ... The season is over 46 games or 40

Appreciate you trying to find some light, but we've won 5 games all season long, we're not going to pick up another 80% of those wins in the next 8 games I'm afraid. Our run in is shite, and if we were going to mount any serious challenge to stay up, we needed to have started it a few weeks back at home to Yeovil. As it is, we're in a position where we're not scoring enough goals (especially at home), and when Curo misses one like he did on Saturday and you go on to lose 1-0, you just sorta know its not gonna be your year.

 

[hellogregory]

I'm an optimist, but even I can't see Dagenham escaping this, same goes for York.

It's done.

 

[Optogas]

If York and Daggers would be kind enough to be dead and buried by the time they play the Gas, can they please roll over and let us romp to successive Promotions please

 

[wilsontown]

Well, as Jackie Mac said we need to win three more games than Stevenage. The problem with that is that even in the best case scenario we need to win three more games, and given the run in that doesn't look all that likely. I could see us getting results against Crawley at home and Hartlepool and Morecambe away, but even if we win all three we have to hope Stevenage get no more than one point in all their remaining fixtures.

In truth it was over once we lost to Daggers, but while there's still some mathematical possibility you can't help considering the permutations.

 

[wilsontown]

Only question for us now is which game we'll go down on. Orient/Wimbledon/Plymouth looking like one of the three. I'd prefer not be relegated at home if I had a choice.

I was thinking along these lines too. Looking like Hartlepool/Portsmouth/Accrington. Being relegated at either Pools or Accy would be a bit of a nightmare.

 

[Gashead]

I was about to write a post about how I'm sure one of these teams will stretch it out, a la Torquay a couple of seasons ago. However, just looked at fixtures and its bloody difficult for both.

Maybe York... beat Crawley to go four points off and I could see them picking up results. Even Plymouth are dreadfully out of form, possibly pick up something there if they have a blinder. To have 6 of the top 8 in the final games though is mental.

They need to have a good Easter if they're to do anything. Fail to win a game and they're gone I think. If they screw it up and so do Stevenage, that may give Daggers hope. Either of those teams win their games though and its curtains for Dagenham I feel.

Selfishly I hope its settled quickly given our last two games, but I hate to see anyone relegated out of the League. Horrible experience.

 

[wilsontown]

Selfishly I hope its settled quickly given our last two games, but I hate to see anyone relegated out of the League. Horrible experience.

Indeed, but two teams have to go and we haven't shown anything to suggest any reason why one of those shouldn't be us.

 

[Murphy]

The most frustrating thing for me is - as I've said a few times - if either us or York had anything about us, or the ability to just scrape a couple of wins on the bounce, Stevenage would be right in this. If those 2 shots against the post at County go in or Curo's penalty at Mansfield or his miss at the weekend it's (potentially) a different story.

I'm not disputing that we've been utterly woeful for the majority of the season, but to be going down with such a whimper when there's teams slightly above us with not much quality just getting a free ride by all accounts, is just so frustrating. Still, we deserve to drop based on our home form alone really.

 

[Gashead]

The most frustrating thing for me is - as I've said a few times - if either us or York had anything about us, or the ability to just scrape a couple of wins on the bounce, Stevenage would be right in this. If those 2 shots against the post at County go in or Curo's penalty at Mansfield or his miss at the weekend it's (potentially) a different story.

I'm not disputing that we've been utterly woeful for the majority of the season, but to be going down with such a whimper when there's teams slightly above us with not much quality just getting a free ride by all accounts, is just so frustrating. Still, we deserve to drop based on our home form alone really.

Unfortunately that always seems to be the way it goes Murph, by contrast we got a bit lucky at times on Saturday. What is true is that a couple of wins can bring the confidence right back, so I'm not ruling either of you out yet.

 

[Leewilson]

I need to stop watching this as it's haunting me but how on earth does Jamie Cureton of all people miss this. Skip to 1.15.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

I'm an optimist, but even I can't see Dagenham escaping this, same goes for York.

It's done.

REALLY ? ...... This has been up all day and no one has said anything !

 

[Sestonpoolie]

Can't see York getting anything at Pools.We've beaten you once and you've got worse,while we've improved recently

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

That's 3 or 4 games away , if York don't start winning soon we could be the ones hammering in the final nail ....although I really do think Stevenage will keep hope alive for both York and Daggers

 

[Sestonpoolie]

Would be good if Stevenage went down.Shit town,ground & support

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

My gaffer lives there and supports West Ham ....reason enough for me for them to go

 

[Gibber_McGee]

3 up 3 down would be a progressive step forward. At the moment there is a bottleneck in the conference. My club, Wrexham, are averaging gates of almost 5,000 (despite a slightly disappointing season), are well run, debt free, profitable, and I think would be a positive addition to league 2 - as would a number of other conference clubs.

The problem is that it is getting harder and harder to get promoted because of a combination of hugely increased parachute payments to relegated FL teams, and because there are a number of very small but very heavily financed clubs who challenge for top spot each season.

Yes 3 up 3 down would mean an extra club being relegated, but it would also mean relegated clubs would find it much easier to get promoted again.

Alernatively, as the conference is mostly full time - why not make it into football league 3?

 

[StagsForLife]

3 up 3 down would be a progressive step forward. At the moment there is a bottleneck in the conference. My club, Wrexham, are averaging gates of almost 5,000 (despite a slightly disappointing season), are well run, debt free, profitable, and I think would be a positive addition to league 2 - as would a number of other conference clubs.

The problem is that it is getting harder and harder to get promoted because of a combination of hugely increased parachute payments to relegated FL teams, and because there are a number of very small but very heavily financed clubs who challenge for top spot each season.

Yes 3 up 3 down would mean an extra club being relegated, but it would also mean relegated clubs would find it much easier to get promoted again.

Alernatively, as the conference is mostly full time - why not make it into football league 3?

To make a League 3, every team would need to be professional for starters. Wrexham do deserve a spot in the FL however you do have to earn it by finishing top or winning the playoffs. You were extremely unlucky in 11/12 with Fleetwood and in the playoffs against Newport 12/13.

 

[Sestonpoolie]

I don't want 3 relegation places.Its ok as is it !!

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

We're 4th bottom now ...I'm now not entirely against it