2015/16 Pre Season Friendles Thread

[pontoonlew]

Grimsby will walk the league provided they play half-arsed experimental league sides every week.

The sides that Derby, Peterborough and Huddersfield put out should be beating us all day long.

It's not like we've luckily beaten one of them, we've taken apart 4 league sides with relative ease. Absolutely no reason why that shouldn't provide a huge confidence boost.

 

[Luke Imp]

Potentially our penultimate pre-season game tonight against a Norwich XI.

 

[RavenBish]

The sides that Derby, Peterborough and Huddersfield put out should be beating us all day long.

It's not like we've luckily beaten one of them, we've taken apart 4 league sides with relative ease. Absolutely no reason why that shouldn't provide a huge confidence boost.

I have a reason. It's preseason and counts for nothing, there's pretty much no correlation between preseason results and league results, yet fans read into it every year despite saying they won't in June

 

[GTFC1979]

I have a reason. It's preseason and counts for nothing, there's pretty much no correlation between preseason results and league results, yet fans read into it every year despite saying they won't in June

What we are all saying Is that it is the performances that are giving us the confidence, the results are just a bonus.
Say what you like about preseason meaning nothing, but these players that are playing so well at the minute, do you think when the season starts they will suddenly start playing shit?!
No, because they are showing what they are capable of, thats why we are happy and optimistic.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

I think it's silly to say you can't take pre-season seriously. It's a time for teams to get to know each other, to experiment and to gel in time for the season. Some teams don't click in time, some do. As GTFC1979 said, the football we've been playing has been ridiculously good and it's an indication of what we're capable of. We could go into the Kidderminster game and play complete shit and get hammered, but it doesn't make our pre-season optimism obsolete.

Our standards are incredibly high this season and the team is showing that we're capable of reaching those standards. Our pre-season will have absolutely no bearing on whether we'll achieve our goals but there's no reason not to be optimistic after the preview we've had. Let's not forget that a couple of us, me most of all, have been incredibly confident of us winning the league even before pre-season started.

 

[les.gtfc]

I have a reason. It's preseason and counts for nothing, there's pretty much no correlation between preseason results and league results, yet fans read into it every year despite saying they won't in June

So basically you're saying we might as well have lost all 8 games and it wouldn't make an ounce of difference to the season.

Of course pre-season means something, it means getting the players fit, getting the new lads settled in, getting the team spirit up, playing decent football and scoring the goals, all of which we have done in spades.

I understand that you can't read that much into pre-season results as a whole, but to say pre-season counts for nothing is ridiculous.

 

[George Reilly's Hairpiece]

I remember pre-season under Mark Robson. We were passing the ball round like Barcelona, making better teams chase shadows, sticking 10 past St. Albans whilst playing in second gear. Lost nine and drew three of our opening 12 games.

 

[Gladders]

Like Clarkey says I was confident we would win this league before pre season, I think I put a post on here couple days after the play off final saying if we kept most of the squad and added a goalscorer we win the title.

All pre season has done is confirm to me that we have a side capable of winning it. Yes pre season results mean nothing, but if pre season meant nothing then why do clubs pay players all through July and get them in? Why not just turn up on first league match day and go from there?

I was that confident walking to the game on Sat that I thought whatever side County put out we would win. The same for Kiddy in a couple weeks.

You know what we might lose to Kiddy or even a few of the early games but I'm still confident we will win the league come next April no matter how bad we start.

 

[Gladders]

Finally on the Lincs Cup Hurst says he isn't happy with the scheduling of the Grantham game, whether it's Grantham fault or the Lincs FA but he doesn't care about the result now and will be putting out a youth side.

 

[1884 Belmont]

The way I see it, all that winning 7 out of 7 in pre-season means is that you have won 7 out of 7 in pre-season. For what it's worth, I can absolutely see why you would get a confidence boost from good pre-season performances and results - I'd probably be similarly encouraged if we had done the same. However, there's a LOT of pressure on Grimsby this season:
1) Highest placed sided from last season's VNL.
2) Kept the bulk of the same squad and added more goals.
3) Won 7 out of 7 in pre-season
4) Have been given £110,000 of their fans money to help promotion.

I think you are the favourites and by a margin too. But you should be - you've got everything going for you. If you DON'T do it, you'll have failed. We've built a squad from scratch, Cheltenham have built a squad from scratch, FGR, Eastleigh - nobody else has all the advantages Grimsby do this season.

 

[Iron_adam]

We are so far unbeaten in preseason. We have beaten the likes of Southend, Leyton Orient, Dagenham & Redbridge and a draw with Millwall. Yet im a pessimist and still can't see us finishing above 18th at best.

 

[pontoonlew]

I have a reason. It's preseason and counts for nothing, there's pretty much no correlation between preseason results and league results, yet fans read into it every year despite saying they won't in June

Results, no.

Performances, yes. You can't tell me you can't judge a side by its performances in pre season. You don't play the football we have by accident, it's not like we've played it against pub sides either. If we played Chelsea in pre-season and got tonked 5-0 but still played brilliant football, it'd still be a positive. In the season we were relegated from the league we had an horrendous pre-season full of shit performances.

 

[DontBringBertie]

I remember pre-season under Mark Robson. We were passing the ball round like Barcelona, making better teams chase shadows, sticking 10 past St. Albans whilst playing in second gear. Lost nine and drew three of our opening 12 games.

We also beat strong Bournemouth and Gillingham sides in the 2013/14 pre season and went on to win 3 out of our first 17 games. Makes no difference at all.

 

[BeesKnees]

We played rubbish last pre-season.
Problem is always you have no idea whether the team are playing flat out against a team who have been asked to focus on certain aspects of the game or taking it easy. Our worst preseason performances have been against lower level teams looking for a scalp and our best performances against higher level teams who are more than likely taking it easy.
Basically there is no possible way of knowing how a season will pan out based on friendlies, the amount of triallists I've seen look awesome in pre-season and disappear when the first competitive tackle goes in is too many to count.

 

[GTFC1979]

The way I see it, all that winning 7 out of 7 in pre-season means is that you have won 7 out of 7 in pre-season. For what it's worth, I can absolutely see why you would get a confidence boost from good pre-season performances and results - I'd probably be similarly encouraged if we had done the same. However, there's a LOT of pressure on Grimsby this season:
1) Highest placed sided from last season's VNL.
2) Kept the bulk of the same squad and added more goals.
3) Won 7 out of 7 in pre-season
4) Have been given £110,000 of their fans money to help promotion.

I think you are the favourites and by a margin too. But you should be - you've got everything going for you. If you DON'T do it, you'll have failed. We've built a squad from scratch, Cheltenham have built a squad from scratch, FGR, Eastleigh - nobody else has all the advantages Grimsby do this season.

8 out of 8.........

 

[Davidimp]

We're goalless at ht v Norwich XI

 

[RavenBish]

Results, no.

Performances, yes. You can't tell me you can't judge a side by its performances in pre season. You don't play the football we have by accident, it's not like we've played it against pub sides either. If we played Chelsea in pre-season and got tonked 5-0 but still played brilliant football, it'd still be a positive. In the season we were relegated from the league we had an horrendous pre-season full of shit performances.

Don't really see your point here...it still means nothing. There's no correlation between pre-season performances and league performances either.

 

[Bluandwite]

Beat Liverpool kids 4-0 thanks to goals from Rooney (hat-trick) and Sam Hughes again, who's incidentally signed a professional contract today as well.

Ryan Kent looks a pretty useful lad for them, and they had a few others who were technically quite gifted. But it was fairly easy pickings to be honest, nice to get a half decent crowd in for it though, boost the coffers.

 

[White Army]

Beat Everton U21's 3-1. New signing Margetts getting two, taking his pre season tally up to 7, looks a real good find this guy, Stockton got the other.

 

[Shotsfan1993]

Lost 5-1 at home to Chelsea U21 tonight after Stevenson put us ahead. Hopefully our defence learnt some lessons from the 2nd half in which we conceded 4!

 

[immariner]

Means little. Still rather go in with 8 wins than 2/3. Confidence plays a massive part in football and so does momentum. However, having a good preseason can lead to a massive comedown if the first couple of results aren't great, sometimes leading to a slump that is not indicative of a side's ability. Important to get at least a point at Kiddy. Unlike some, I'm not confident we'll win the league though I'm more hopeful than in previous seasons. Looks our strongest squad since relegation.

 

[mallyx68]

I feel some Town fans are getting a little carried away this season.

The friendly result are very good, it's true. However, the people saying they are meaningless to the season are quite correct. Most of us has seen preseasons where teams have looked good but had poor seasons and visa versa.

However, the performances of the team have been very good and I haven't seen Town play this well for a long, long time. It's not just sneaking results against League opposition it's been out playing them. It's hard to make a judgement though as the better sides are probably using games against us to try out different things as well as gaining fitness. Town's consistency has been impressive, though.

If Grimsby are to win the League this year I think it is imperative we get of to a good start. The feeling behind the club at the moment is very good and the opening fixtures are favourable too. Get a run going early and it could snowball. Get off to a start like last year however and we have a very difficult fixture list to finish to the league.

However it turns out, this is a very tough and unforgiving league. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk for Town, or even just comfortable, are in for a rude surprise, I feel.

 

[The_Boss]

We got a right royal spanking from Sheff Utd last night. We've now failed to score in 5 out of 6 pre-season games, County must be awful!!

But pre-season means nothing so lump on us to win the league!

 

[Luke Imp]

Won 1-0 against Norwich XI, Muldoon with the goal.

Not scoring many (7 in 5) but not conceding many either (3 in 5, 4 clean sheets). We're like #maccmachine last season.

 

[immariner]

I feel some Town fans are getting a little carried away this season.

The friendly result are very good, it's true. However, the people saying they are meaningless to the season are quite correct. Most of us has seen preseasons where teams have looked good but had poor seasons and visa versa.

However, the performances of the team have been very good and I haven't seen Town play this well for a long, long time. It's not just sneaking results against League opposition it's been out playing them. It's hard to make a judgement though as the better sides are probably using games against us to try out different things as well as gaining fitness. Town's consistency has been impressive, though.

If Grimsby are to win the League this year I think it is imperative we get of to a good start. The feeling behind the club at the moment is very good and the opening fixtures are favourable too. Get a run going early and it could snowball. Get off to a start like last year however and we have a very difficult fixture list to finish to the league.

However it turns out, this is a very tough and unforgiving league. Anyone who thinks it will be a cakewalk for Town, or even just comfortable, are in for a rude surprise, I feel.

Bow to the voice of reason! It's as if people have forgotten the nature of the beast. Fiotball's a bitch and she'll kick you in the nads at any given opportunity. Being Grimsby supporters we should know better than most.
A few good performances against half-strength league sides guarantees FA. As supporters we should obviously take optimism from our preseason, but confidence of winning the league when there are 4/5 other teams with the same realistic ambition is a step too far in ny opinion. Setting yourselves up for probable and severe disappointment.

 

[Mr Scooty]

We got a right royal spanking from Sheff Utd last night. We've now failed to score in 5 out of 6 pre-season games, County must be awful!!

But pre-season means nothing so lump on us to win the league!

Sorry, but those results mean you are definitely going down. Good luck in the National League North or whatever it will be called in 2016.

 

[The_Boss]

Sorry, but those results mean you are definitely going down. Good luck in the National League North or whatever it will be called in 2016.

Unfortunately, I've a horrible feeling you'll be proved right!

 

[Gladders]

Bow to the voice of reason! It's as if people have forgotten the nature of the beast. Fiotball's a bitch and she'll kick you in the nads at any given opportunity. Being Grimsby supporters we should know better than most.
A few good performances against half-strength league sides guarantees FA. As supporters we should obviously take optimism from our preseason, but confidence of winning the league when there are 4/5 other teams with the same realistic ambition is a step too far in ny opinion. Setting yourselves up for probable and severe disappointment.

Except I was confident of us winning the league before pre-season, so it makes no difference, and bear in mind I have never been confident of coming close to winning the league in our previous 5 seasons despite other town fans thinking it. I said after the play-off final if we kept most of the squad together and signed a couple decent strikers we would win.

Pre-season games have only added to that opinion/optimism not been the cause of it.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

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[Southern Shayman]

Except I was confident of us winning the league before pre-season, so it makes no difference, and bear in mind I have never been confident of coming close to winning the league in our previous 5 seasons despite other town fans thinking it. I said after the play-off final if we kept most of the squad together and signed a couple decent strikers we would win.

Pre-season games have only added to that opinion/optimism not been the cause of it.

If you just use copy and paste it will make it quicker every time you post.

Yawn.