Attacks in Paris + Belgium

[TheMinsterman]

Many of us cannot afford your tachy shit, but thanks.
I'd like to see tourists spending money in my country much more than to invite those who can't create their own livable countries to build a bright future on my homeland.

I'd prefer people didn't live in abject misery and suffered things most of us can never truly comprehend thus forcing them to leave their home, but that isn't the world we live in. You seem oddly bitter about the length of time you're welcome as a tourist that you need to use the suffering of other human beings and their desperation to make some strange point.

 

[Christian Slater]

Following your logic. People can get the guns anyway too. How did the terrorist get the ak-47 yesterday? Its not hard.
Also, it is funny how you have moved towards making racist remarks and trying to make it sound like I have problem with Brown people.

No one is claiming the refugees shouldn't be let in. I am just saying an organized and regulated approach should have been taken.

More people can get guns if they're legal. Instead of direct recruits being able to get guns in, people with no connection but a grudge can start shooting people too.

How do you regulate who is a terrorist and who isn't? You make no sense whatsoever.

 

[silkyman]

They can get in anyway, it's not hard. America is letting 10,000 Brown people in too, you must be terrified.

What are we supposed to do with the refugees then, leave them?

They're brown. So yes. Ask Katie Hopkins.

 

[spireite]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/w...paris-attacks-calling-them-miracles.html?_r=0

ISIS claim "first attack of the storm" and mocking France as a “capital of prostitution and obscenity,”

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

they do know moulin rouge wasn't a contemporary account of parisian society. it's basically a period piece ffs

 

[liu]

I'd prefer people didn't live in abject misery and suffered things most of us can never truly comprehend thus forcing them to leave their home, but that isn't the world we live in. You seem oddly bitter about the length of time you're welcome as a tourist that you need to use the suffering of other human beings and their desperation to make some strange point.

Actually I think the visa length is enough. Tragedies like today's make me worried for the western part of the world. I don't think today's Europe are in a position to help the rest of the world.
I grew up listening to American music and watching English football. For a long time I believe the western world is doing what we all should do to build a better world. That's why as soon as I saved some money I spent it on visiting your country.
It makes me feel sad to see you get yourselves in today's situation. It's easy to have a nice heart after your ancestors made you one of the most successful countries in the world. But just being kind is far from enough.

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

looks like one of the attackers has been identified as a french national, alongside (supposedly) an egyptian and a syrian

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

everyone added a french flag to their profile pic i trust? together we can defeat hate

 

[Stevencc]

everyone added a french flag to their profile pic i trust? together we can defeat hate

Just make sure you get it right.

 

[HertsWolf]

What does this have to do with refugees?

I'm hoping none of the terrorists was called David, because then that would clearly implicate David Cameron.

 

[HertsWolf]

Because one is fleeing genocide, war, starvation and death and the other is here to buy tacky shit to take home with them?

Perfect answer.

 

[HertsWolf]

No. But why do your country want a refugee to stay more than a tourist for a brief visit?

Compassion.

Google it.

 

[HertsWolf]

If me or my family and friends were attacked then I'd like to have the right to defend myself, rather then be forced to watch people shot or taken hostage before any armed response units eventually turn up. That or at least know that help was close by.

Would you rather lie on the floor and wait to die or shoot back at the fuckers?

Statistics show that people armed with a gun are 4.5 times more likely to be shot than those who are not. There have been plenty of examples where people present at shootings were armed but were too shocked to use their guns. The death toll from firearm use in the US is far, far higher than from acts of terrorism.

 

[silkyman]

I read somewhere that US police shot on duty often haven't drawn their gun. Not even being a highly trained people get it right all the time.

And what if you pull your gun, start shooting at the other guy shooting, only for the other guy you can SEE shooting to be another 'good guy' shooting bad guys out of your line of sight. And then another 'hero' pops up, sees you shooting and shoots you.

Imagine the chaos. Imagine the panic. How the fuck would you be able to tell who is who before you started raining bullets into the crowd in the hope of getting the right person.

 

[HertsWolf]

I read somewhere that US police shot on duty often haven't drawn their gun. Not even being a highly trained people get it right all the time.

And what if you pull your gun, start shooting at the other guy shooting, only for the other guy you can SEE shooting to be another 'good guy' shooting bad guys out of your line of sight. And then another 'hero' pops up, sees you shooting and shoots you.

Imagine the chaos. Imagine the panic. How the fuck would you be able to tell who is who before you started raining bullets into the crowd in the hope of getting the right person.

Then when the police turn up, who do **they** shoot? Everyone? No-one? Themselves? People acting suspiciously ("He was hiding under a table")? Or just people who look a bit foreign? Or anyone who's a plumber?

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

i think it was him being brazillian and brown looking that got him shot rather than him being a plumber ya know

 

[Dave-Vale]

I saw a report saying the Passport was Syrian and the person it was on was only 15 years old. If that is true then that is fucked up.

Why can't the human race just stop being dickheads to each other?!

 

[HertsWolf]

i think it was him being brazillian and brown looking that got him shot rather than him being a plumber ya know

They didn't know he was Brazilian.

 

[Ossie]

the bread winners go out, get established then send remittances home and, hopefully, bring their family along. the logic is sound

Not to me it isn't. If I was living a place where I thought my family were in danger I would make sure they are safe before anything else. If that meant staying behind and sending them away first, that is what I would do.

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

Not to me it isn't. If I was living a place where I thought my family were in danger I would make sure they are safe before anything else. If that meant staying behind and sending them away first, that is what I would do.

sending your family off without u to a foreign land, on a journey in which hundreds have perished, isn't making sure they're safe, is it

 

[AFCB_Mark]

A man from France was arrested after leaving a gun in a bin at Gatwick this morning.

A plan thwarted?

 

[smat]

Why would you bring your passport to a suicide bombing? Do you need them to get upstairs or something?

 

[Blitzballer]

Seems this chap came via Greece in October

http://news.sky.com/story/1587719/three-paris-suspects-lived-in-belgium

 

[HertsWolf]

French high-speed train on test on new Strasbourg line derails. Five dead. Not a good day in France tbh.

 

[BlueBee]

Seems this chap came via Greece in October

http://news.sky.com/story/1587719/three-paris-suspects-lived-in-belgium

But none of the refugees were terrorists....Hmmm.

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

But none of the refugees were terrorists....Hmmm.

did anyone actually say that

 

[HertsWolf]

Why would you bring your passport to a suicide bombing? Do you need them to get upstairs or something?

You need it to prove to the 72 virgins in paradise that it really was you that executed innocent children, families, bystanders. Virgins are fussy like that in paradise. Want proof. Selfish, I know, but that's the rules.
#jihadilogic

 

[mnb089mnb]

They didn't know he was Brazilian.

But you can never be too careful, can you?

 

[Christian Slater]

A man from France was arrested after leaving a gun in a bin at Gatwick this morning.

A plan thwarted?

You'd have thought that'd be an accomplice, leaving arms in place for those that will take out the attacks.

 

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

You'd have thought that'd be an accomplice, leaving arms in place for those that will take out the attacks.

pretty shit place to execute an attack if so. not many places have tighter security than airports. one of the only places u see cops routinely armed with automatic weapons too