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A guy has just rocked up with a piano outside the Bataclan playing John Lennon's Imagine.

 

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"Hunt for the Isis killers: Syrian passport is found on the body of a suicide bomber at the Stade de France" Surprise Surprise.
 

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"Hunt for the Isis killers: Syrian passport is found on the body of a suicide bomber at the Stade de France" Surprise Surprise.

What does this have to do with refugees?
 

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sorry but bluebees right about terrorists pretending to be refugees

we've created a mass problem now and thousands walk around Europe from ISIS , I've no doubt the majority are genuine refugees but the photos and videos I seen were pretty fit young men who looked better looked after than most in England, refugees :D
 

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Maybe you do considering you think it is related to refugees every time. No smoke without fire.

Maybe I do what?

Syria is in an ideological war, people from there have been radicalised or already were. This has nothing to do with allowing families safe passage away from being murdered.
 
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sorry but bluebees right about terrorists pretending to be refugees

we've created a mass problem now and thousands walk around Europe from ISIS , I've no doubt the majority are genuine refugees but the photos and videos I seen were pretty fit young men who looked better looked after than most in England, refugees :D

the bread winners go out, get established then send remittances home and, hopefully, bring their family along. the logic is sound
 

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I hope that this doesn't lead to people trying to seek retribution. It's not the fault of the majority of muslims. The last thing that we need is more religious hatred being stirred up, or it will end up like Israel.
 

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the bread winners go out, get established then send remittances home and, hopefully, bring their family along. the logic is sound


possibly true Ian but can you honestly say that terrorists didn't see an easy way into Europe from Syria?
 

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Are you genuinely confusing the words "refugee" and "tourist"? Really?
No. But why do your country want a refugee to stay more than a tourist for a brief visit?
 
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Gatwick North Terminal evacuated after man arrested with 'grenade in his bag'

South terminal locked down, army EOD turning up

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possibly true Ian but can you honestly say that terrorists didn't see an easy way into Europe from Syria?
no, i'd be very surprised if there wasn't an attempt to infiltrate refugee columns by DAESH. i believe we do have a duty to accept refugees, shared humanity and all that, but there are obvious security implications. we were (somehow) caught unawares by the scale of the crisis which is very worrying
 

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I'm sick of sitting here constantly hitting the refresh and delete post button.

I get that it's an emotive subject, but can we try and act like adults please.
 

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yeah, until Tibet have conquered you, its the normal way.

furthermore they wont stay here forever, i can remember in the yugoslavian war, we accepted a lot of refugees from there at this time, but after the war ended ( or latest they turned 18) they had to go back ( thats why for example the reason why so many bosnian international footballers were born / grown up in Germany)

I don't see a war between us and Tibet. We are going on well.
And, Why you'd like to see us conquered by Tibet? So you won't feel lonely when conquered by Arab? Judging by recent situation, you'd have to pray to Allah for a Tibet victory.
 

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The point, G-Drags, is that this is that you're stigmatising refugees - at this very moment we know very little about the perpetrators of tonight's atrocities. To apportion blame at this stage is to lay bare your own personal prejudices. No doubt we're always looking for someone to blame, but it really should be sufficient to recognise an atrocity for what it is. Therefore, don't be too surprised if people are a little intolerant of anything which basically seems to amount to idiotic point-scoring...
When did I blame the genuine refugees though? PC idiots trying to group the refugees and the terrorist together are the ones stigmatizing the refugees.
 

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G-Dragon, you make no sense whatsoever.
 
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No. But why do your country want a refugee to stay more than a tourist for a brief visit?

Because one is fleeing genocide, war, starvation and death and the other is here to buy tacky shit to take home with them?
 

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When did I blame the genuine refugees though? PC idiots trying to group the refugees and the terrorist together are the ones stigmatizing the refugees.

How do you distinguish a refugee from a terrorist? That last sentence is so idiotic.
 

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How do you distinguish a refugee from a terrorist? That last sentence is so idiotic.
How can you say it is ok to provide easier access for terrorist to attack the Western countries because they get in anyway but there is a problem when people get easier access to guns?
 

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How can you say it is ok to provide easier access for terrorist to attack the Western countries because they get in anyway but there is a problem when people get easier access to guns?

That's a non sequitur if ever I've seen one. I'll ask again, how do you distinguish between a refugee and a terrorist?

If guns are easier to access then people that want to use them, or are mentally unstable, have access to rampage kill. You as an American should know that better than anyone.
 

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That's a non sequitur if ever I've seen one. I'll ask again, how do you distinguish between a refugee and a terrorist?

If guns are easier to access then people that want to use them, or are mentally unstable, have access to rampage kill. You as an American should know that better than anyone.
Well then if you make it easier for terrorists to come into the Europe, it will result in more terrorist attacks.
 

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Well then if you make it easier for terrorists to come into the Europe, it will result in more terrorist attacks.

They can get in anyway, it's not hard. America is letting 10,000 Brown people in too, you must be terrified.

What are we supposed to do with the refugees then, leave them?
 

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They can get in anyway, it's not hard. America is letting 10,000 Brown people in too, you must be terrified.

What are we supposed to do with the refugees then, leave them?
Following your logic. People can get the guns anyway too. How did the terrorist get the ak-47 yesterday? Its not hard.
Also, it is funny how you have moved towards making racist remarks and trying to make it sound like I have problem with Brown people.

No one is claiming the refugees shouldn't be let in. I am just saying an organized and regulated approach should have been taken.
 

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Because one is fleeing genocide, war, starvation and death and the other is here to buy tacky shit to take home with them?

Many of us cannot afford your tachy shit, but thanks.
I'd like to see tourists spending money in my country much more than to invite those who can't create their own livable countries to build a bright future on my homeland.
 

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