Big Sam - New England Manager

[JoeJoeJoeJoe]

Allardyce. Fucking hell.

And people called Hodgson a dinosaur.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

FA cup is hardly anymore noteworthy these days so you may as write off all domestic cups then.

Not really, FA cup still holds far more value than the league cup. You think we would have taken 5k to West Brom in the league cup, no chance.

Either way Pellegrini didn't win an FA cup!

 

[hodge]

The only reason we wouldn't have taken 5k was because it would have been played on a Tuesday rather than a Saturday, premier league opposition in a cup would have attracted a crowd regardless.

 

[smat]

Klinsmann for me now he's half thrown him name in the hat.

Did he then throw his hat in the ring?

Honestly keep giggling at how stupid that is.

 

[Abertawe]

The FA would be wise to crawl, obsequiously, to crawl to the door of Arsene Wenger and beg.

Of course, if the plan is to staff the next England team with Kevin Davies, Emile Heskey, Joey Barton, Neil Ruddock, and half a dozen MMA fighters, by all means offer the job to Sam Allardyce.

Incredibly ignorant and quite plainly wrong. Big Sam was instrumental in bringing about a change in professionalism in relation to off the field, sport science & training methods.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Did he then throw his hat in the ring?

Honestly keep giggling at how stupid that is.

Yes

 

[epic73]

Please take Klinsmann. We don't want him.

 

[JJH]

Please take Klinsmann. We don't want him.

I'd be more than happy to - did very well with Germany, and had the US punching above their weight. A proper, proven international manager.

 

[epic73]

I'd be more than happy to - did very well with Germany, and had the US punching above their weight. A proper, proven international manager.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-off-us-world-cup-team-is-a-horrible-decision

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Did he then throw his hat in the ring?

Honestly keep giggling at how stupid that is.

Seriously though why is that stupid?

 

[Hamez]

I'd be more than happy to - did very well with Germany, and had the US punching above their weight. A proper, proven international manager.

He did well with Germany in their home World Cup... He's been pretty poor with America in all honesty. Can't think why we'd want him.

 

[lordofthepies]

Klinsmann did well with Germany and was clearly a very important part of their revival over recent years. The US have massively gone backwards since he took over though. They were much better before they appointed him.

 

[Veggie Legs]

Don't worry everyone, I've got the solution...

A man who is (sufficiently) English
A man who can instill the kind of passion in the players that everyone is clamouring for
A man with international experience
A man who is manager of a club with a history of providing England's best managers

 

[DarkSithLord]

Rumours on Twitter from various sources that Southgate has officially rejected the England job!

Good!

 

[Abertawe]

I can't actually believe the likes of Wilkins, Hoddle, Redknapp & co still receive respect from those within the game. Sounds like a pisshead own the pub http://talksport.com/football/load-...ond-verheijen-talksport-showdown-160629201374

 

[Skinner]

Bob Bradley is the reason USA are where they are.

Honestly can't see Southgate rejecting it, why stay with the U21s of offered the full side job? No logical reason at all.

 

[T.A]

He already has rejected it. He's got it good with the U21's why would he risk his career in a job that is clearly a shambles.

 

[PDS]

If Southgate had taken it he could probably kiss goodbye to another club job once he inevitably gets sacked.

Unless you're Steve MacLaren, who somehow keeps coming back of course.

Still want Klinsmann personally and with a long term plan rather than working within the same two-year cycles we currently are.

 

[The Unbeliever]

If Southgate had taken it he could probably kiss goodbye to another club job once he inevitably gets sacked.

Unless you're Steve MacLaren, who somehow keeps coming back of course.

Still want Klinsmann personally and with a long term plan rather than working within the same two-year cycles we currently are.

You can't have a long term plan - because players that you start with might be out of form or unfit come the tournament. We need someone that can look at the fit inform players at the end of the season preceding the tournament and build a team out of them.
Who would have questioned Stirling being in the side at the beginning of last season, no one I suspect.

 

[smat]

Why are you all talking about Klinsmann????

Jürgen Klinsmann's US reign so far: tactically chaotic and often embarrassing

Americans think he's shit!!! (Where's thespus, he'll vouch hopefully, otherwise I'll be embarrassed)

 

[PDS]

You can't have a long term plan - because players that you start with might be out of form or unfit come the tournament. We need someone that can look at the fit inform players at the end of the season preceding the tournament and build a team out of them.
Who would have questioned Stirling being in the side at the beginning of last season, no one I suspect.

A long term plan tactically - The England players this tournament had literally no idea what they were being asked to do. They had quickly been thrown into a new system about a week before the start of the tournament with no vision/plan/idea of how we want to play (It looked like Roy wanted a possession game, but that went out the window with some questionable long raking balls)

 

[The Unbeliever]

A long term plan tactically - The England players this tournament had literally no idea what they were being asked to do. They had quickly been thrown into a new system about a week before the start of the tournament with no vision/plan/idea of how we want to play (It looked like Roy wanted a possession game, but that went out the window with some questionable long raking balls)

I agree with most of what you have said in both posts, but the tactics you employ are going to be short term, based both on the opposition and on the players available. It's pointless deciding a way to play if you haven't got in form fit players capable of playing it come tournament time. You end up in the same position as Hodgson trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
You need a pragmatist, somebody that can look what's available and at the opposition and have a squad of players available that have varying skills and attributes. I said from the off that I could not believe that Carroll didn't get a place in the squad, you pick 5 strikers and neglect to take a big man as an option - crazy.

 

[Christian Slater]

The FA need to do something deranged, like hire a female manager or someone that has won titles with Dagenham & Redbridge on FM or FIFA. It's the only way to create interest.

 

[epic73]

Americans think he's shit!!! (Where's thespus, he'll vouch hopefully, otherwise I'll be embarrassed)

I'll save you. Yes, he's horrible. I don't want him.


However, everyone else seems to think he's great.

 

[smat]

I'll save you. Yes, he's horrible. I don't want him.


However, everyone else seems to think he's great.

thank u

 

[Stevencc]

I want to know what Mente Captus thinks about Klinsmann being the...

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herr apparent.

 

[SALTIRE]

I want to know what Mente Captus thinks about Klinsmann being the...

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herr apparent.

 

[Stevencc]

 

[thespus]

Why are you all talking about Klinsmann????

Jürgen Klinsmann's US reign so far: tactically chaotic and often embarrassing

Americans think he's shit!!! (Where's thespus, he'll vouch hopefully, otherwise I'll be embarrassed)

He's not entirely shit, but he's not the right manager for the USA. I was at Germany 2006, and while Germany exceeded our expectations, catching us in the hysteria of his achievements, I think the team enthusiasm and motivation can be attributed to playing at home. He isn't without credit, though.

Klinsmann is tactically chaotic. They've fared well when he sets them up to play on the counter, but struggled trying to play as "favorites" dominating possession and territory (Gold Cup exit last summer). Germany in 2006 was very similar tactically to USA in 2014: players "bought in", efficient counter attacks and set pieces, balanced pressing, and good goalkeeping. Klinsmann struggled with the perennial favorites Bayern, too.

His weaknesses with the USA include squad selections and inability to be tactically flexible; he has one plan prior to a tournament and will stick to it rain or shine. This past Copa America encapsulates my dissatisfaction. He set the team up to play like favorites (relative to 2014), and it was abysmal vs. Colombia in the opening match. It worked well after that through the QFs, notably Bobby Wood and the back four of Yedlin - Cameron - Brooks - Johnson. (John Brooks is going to be very good.) Then came the Argentina game. Jermaine Jones and Bobby Wood were suspended. Instead of analyzing why those specific players fit the system, he opted for squad hierarchy: Beckerman for Jones and Wondoloski for Wood.

Michael Bradley requires a mobile, high-stamina player next to him. Jones is exactly that (and an underrated player overall). He's constantly moving, whether it's tracking a runner, making a tackle, or opening up between the lines for a pass. Kyle Beckerman shouldn't have been in the squad. His legs are gone. He's never been international quality on the ball. And it showed: he misplaced 5 of his first 6 passes against Argentina, and his lack of awareness and mobility contributed to the first two Argentina goals.

Bobby Wood is integral to the attack due to his runs off the ball and ability to create space off the dribble. He's also a decent finisher, and should fare well at Hamburg. Wondoloski is a poor man's Inzaghi; he's a poacher in the box and isn't going to drop deep or move laterally to link up like Wood. He's an alright player to replace Dempsey, not Wood. Wondoloski was poor, and the United States only notable moments in attack were provided by the fullbacks Yedlin and Johnson. Pulisic or Nagbe would have been much better choices to start.

If you're under the belief what England needs is passion, sure, maybe he'd do okay. But I think that's a misdiagnosis. England need a coherent tactical system. Hodgson was managing the game like someone playing FIFA; pick the best eleven players, fit them in a formation, and hope their talent prevails.

Wenger leading England to glory in 2018 would perhaps be the greatest troll job of all time. But for the sake of his health, I hope he stays well clear of the job.

 

[epic73]

Wondoloski is a

poor man

Wondoloski is

entirely shit

Wondoloski is

abysmal

Wondoloski

encapsulates my dissatisfaction

I could go on.