Bristol City thread

[Ciderhead]

We'd sell it out chaps and have a few thousand locked out

I thought you were going to be in the Premier League with your 100,000 seater stadium

 

[TTOCS]

As a selfish knobhead and self important little oik* Atyeo should be away fans only next season.

*Good word, not heard it for a long time.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

I don't advocate 4,000 away fans at the Gate unless it's an exceptional situation. The chap who posted about 3,000 away fans totally isolated with full-ish home stands surrounding them understood where I was coming from. The problem with the current 'solution' is that the home support is divided across all 4 stands. IF the noisier element returned to the old EE position, any noise would spread more easily from there than it will as things stand.
I'm NOT criticising those currently in the Atyeo, far from it, but I am criticising the clubs' decision as it does appear to be a half baked cock up which has further distanced those in the Atyeo from the rest of us. I think it's a sad day for the 'excluded' 14,000 TBH with all respect to those in the Atyeo. The atmosphere now has zero chance of improving apart from in there.
To GG, I'm not arguing but having a discussion. No animosity from me at all, just sadness.

I agree with your point about exclusivity. Me and my mates would love to join the Atyeo lot but it's looking like it will have to be another long dull season elsewhere in the ground! I said in a recent club survey people should be given the opportunity to join the singing area, wherever it may, be for the upcoming season.

 

[TTOCS]

I agree with your point about exclusivity. Me and my mates would love to join the Atyeo lot but it's looking like it will have to be another long dull season elsewhere in the ground! I said in a recent club survey people should be given the opportunity to join the singing area, wherever it may, be for the upcoming season.

This is true. My fiance wont be able to join me and friends in the Atyeo. The decision to stay in the Atyeo would directly adversely affect me, unlike most of the passionate contributors to this thread.

 

[JJH]

Leeds, Villa and Sunderland or Newcastle if they come down are the only ones that would sell 4K come what may, and even that's not guarenteed if it's a Tues night or a game moved for Sky. There's a few others that might (Weds, Derby, Cardiff) if they're going well, if it's a Sat 3pm kick off. But even allowing for those ifs and buys you're still talking 17, 18 games a season where the fans that have been kicked out of the Atyeo are looking out at swathes of empty seats in there when the majority of clubs don't even get close. When we used to offer 2, 2.5k in the East End in the Championship that didn't sell out regularly.

I take your point mate - but look at it like this:

Say 6 teams sell could sell out the 4k. We're turning down 1,300 tickets at £30 a pop. If my maths is correct, 30*1300=39,000. 39,000*6=240,000 (roughly). Say we take half of that in profit - we've just turned down £120,000. That's nearly half of what we paid for Golbourne, and he's been excellent so far.

I'm looking at the away figures at Ashton Gate from 2007/08 when we were a good side, new to the division and hadn't played a lot of the teams for a while.

Only 8 teams took over 1.5k. I don't think we are as big a draw as you think JJH.

It's not us being a big draw mate, it's big clubs in this division travelling well.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

It's not us being a big draw mate, it's big clubs in this division travelling well.

As proven by the stats though clubs in this division have never really travelled well to Ashton Gate. In most of the 6 seasons between 2007-2013, there was only 5 or 6 clubs each time that took over 1.5k.

 

[JJH]

As proven by the stats though clubs in this division have never really travelled well to Ashton Gate. In most of the 6 seasons between 2007-2013, there was only 5 or 6 clubs each time that took over 1.5k.

And like I said, there would roughly be 5 or 6 clubs that sell the 4k next season, and that's a hell of a lot of revenue to turn away to accommodate some fans in a stand where there are plenty of empty seats elsewhere. It's also shit for people like you, who want to re-unite with the singing lot but are unable to do so because of the limited numbers the Atyeo has to offer.

 

[Ciderhead]

I see what you mean about trying to maximise revenue but 120k is pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things tbh. That's 400 season tickets at £300 quid a pop. You might lose that many in disgruntled fans. Or an extra £2k a week for the wage budget. Would that even get you an academy graduate these days?

 

[Ciderup]

And like I said, there would roughly be 5 or 6 clubs that sell the 4k next season, and that's a hell of a lot of revenue to turn away to accommodate some fans in a stand where there are plenty of empty seats elsewhere. It's also shit for people like you, who want to re-unite with the singers but are unable to do so because of the limited numbers the Atyeo has to offer.

According to our favourite spokesperson, they're called 'Atyeo hoolies'!
dear god, make it stop!!
It reeks of 'we're alright Jack, stuff the rest' TBH. The club have messed up in my humble opinion.

 

[JJH]

I see what you mean about trying to maximise revenue but 120k is pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things tbh. That's 400 season tickets at £300 quid a pop. You might lose that many in disgruntled fans. Or an extra £2k a week for the wage budget. Would that even get you an academy graduate these days?

Valid point.

 

[BCFC Jordan]

I find the hate for the small minority of people trying to prevent Ashton Gate's atmosphere from completely dying genuinely quite bewildering. I've not been in the stand for a while either but respect what they're trying to do. Fair enough if you're not that bothered. But to hate them? Just find it strange tbh.

 

[JJH]

I find the hate for the small minority of people trying to prevent Ashton Gate's atmosphere from completely dying genuinely quite bewildering. I've not been in the stand for a while either but respect what they're trying to do. Fair enough if you're not that bothered. But to hate them? Just find it strange tbh.

I don't hate them, I admire what they're trying to do but they're limiting themselves if they're keeping it to only 1,000 of them in the Atyeo. Move into the SS and get the ground bouncing again - Aaron said him and some mates wants to re-unite with them, CiderUp says he wants to be a part of it again but needs some young 'uns around him...

So effectively, from where I stand, they're limiting themselves and reducing the potential atmosphere by staying in the Atyeo.

Just my opinion, I'll shut up about it now; I've said my piece and I think I'm rubbing a few people up the wrong way with it.

 

[BCFC Jordan]

Move into the South Stand and you'll have families complaining on one side and the more upper-class fans turning their noses up distastefully at being near the more vocal element of the fanbase.

 

[hodge]

Move into the South Stand and you'll have families complaining on one side and the more upper-class fans turning their noses up distastefully at being near the more vocal element of the fanbase.

Family section has hardly been in the SS long so easy enough to relocate, said on OTIB that they probably won't care where they sit as long as they can sit as a family. As for anyone whose been in the Dolman or old Williams longer they'd have been used to the singing section being in the old EE anyway.

Have to agree I don't really understand the decision (as probably seen on OTIB) as I feel it limits the potential for greater support lies in the South Stand, everyone knows the dolman traditionally doesn't make a great deal of noise, choice of the fans who sit there, so be it. So the fans closest to the Atyeo fans wont carry on round the ground, in the SS they'd be right in the middle of the home fans and the potential would be greater for getting more fans involved imo.

Logistically it just makes sense imo, as I also posed on otib, what are the club going to do for FA Cup games for example should we draw a club who will want the max allocation which will require the entire Atyeo? Can't see the Atyeo fans then being happy about trying to find somewhere else to go even for the 1 game.

 

[BCFC Jordan]

Logistically it just makes sense imo, as I also posed on otib, what are the club going to do for FA Cup games for example should we draw a club who will want the max allocation which will require the entire Atyeo? Can't see the Atyeo fans then being happy about trying to find somewhere else to go even for the 1 game.

It's been said before that for cup games against big opposition (how often does that happen anyway?) they'll be in the upper Williams tier.

 

[hodge]

It's been said before that for cup games against big opposition (how often does that happen anyway?) they'll be in the upper Williams tier.

That just makes even less sense imo, if say we draw an Arsenal or a Man Utd we would easily sell out, so you'd then have to have 2 sets of stewarding/segregation (unless we plan on giving them the entire top tier so what an extra 4500 or so?) so 7k overall, unless we just don't put any in the Atyeo, but then comes back to the issue of segregation inside the Dolman, blocking stairways etc, concourse stands being busy by 2 sets of fans trying to use half of the stands facilities. The Atyeo would be practically bang on the required amount we'd have to give away fans and would be the easiest option for segregation and stewarding too.

 

[WTTJ]

Jjh and ciderup. I appreciate you have an opinion and you are entitled to it and as an Atyeo ST holder I want to move to the SS but the club gave us a straight choice and neither were ideal.

However I find your choice of words about Dolly just plain rude and cowardly. If you dont like her or disagree just say so or at the very least say so in a private environment. Homophobic language and other unpleasantries make you seem rather unsavoury.

 

[Techno Natch]

Jjh and ciderup. I appreciate you have an opinion and you are entitled to it and as an Atyeo ST holder I want to move to the SS but the club gave us a straight choice and neither were ideal.

However I find your choice of words about Dolly just plain rude and cowardly. If you dont like her or disagree just say so or at the very least say so in a private environment. Homophobic language and other unpleasantries make you seem rather unsavoury.

Yeah she does a lot a for the club from what I can see and seems to do anything she can to help anyway. Out of order comments tbh.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

So, erm, how's the stadium revamp going?

 

[Ciderhead]

So, erm, how's the stadium revamp going?

After all this turns out they're knocking down the Atyeo

 

[JJH]

Jjh and ciderup. I appreciate you have an opinion and you are entitled to it and as an Atyeo ST holder I want to move to the SS but the club gave us a straight choice and neither were ideal.

However I find your choice of words about Dolly just plain rude and cowardly. If you dont like her or disagree just say so or at the very least say so in a private environment. Homophobic language and other unpleasantries make you seem rather unsavoury.

I appreciate your comments mate, but my problem with Dolly is more of a personal past with her. She knows what I think of her, I know what she thinks of me - no love lost, stay well clear from whatever I'm looking at it.

Yeah she does a lot a for the club from what I can see and seems to do anything she can to help anyway. Out of order comments tbh.

In fairness she does mate, I can't deny that, but we don't quite see eye to eye for several reasons.

 

[tommy_b]

At least this is more restrained than the OTIB discussion. That makes me want to cry it's so tedious.

 

[hodge]

So, erm, how's the stadium revamp going?

What stadium revamp....

 

[Walkley_Owl]

What stadium revamp....

Oh you're one of them Atyeo hoolies

 

[JJH]

Oh you're one of them Atyeo hoolies

That term brings vomite to the back of my throat.

 

[hodge]

Oh you're one of them Atyeo hoolies

Nope 'dolmonite' when I can make it to games.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Nope 'dolmonite' when I can make it to games.

Sounds like a low fat Italian sauce

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[hodge]

That term brings vomite to the back of my throat.

hoolie

 

[hodge]

Sounds like a low fat Italian sauce

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That just makes me think of pizza

 

[TomPNE94]

That term brings vomite to the back of my throat.

What's vomite? Sounds like a kind of rock.