Corona league one

[Indian Dan]

Listen to this 6th post down

https://gaschat.co.uk/thread/16220/serious-leaked-players-tape?page=1&scrollTo=616441

 

[Reremnart]

.Only move i would make is to promote Barrow enabling the Football league to retain the 92.

Why Barrow? Purely on the basis they are currently top of the VNL? Their form dropped off before the season stopped (they had taken 4 points out of the last 15 whereas Harrogate took 10) and they were getting reeled in. If that continued who is to say they would still be top if the season had been played to it`s conclusion. Them gaining automatic promotion was not as cut and dried as some people seem to think.

 

[DearneValleyRover]

So will they wait till x time to finish the season or just cancel it and hope not too many clubs make a fuss?

At the moment the intent is to finish the season but I’m sure every option is being thought of

 

[Shrimpurh]

Has anyone heard much on the stance from their clubs?

Ours has always been to finish the season, preferably, albeit unlikely, with fans, and apparently there is little appetite from EFL clubs for games to be played beyond 31st July (out of contract players are due another months wages if they don't pick a club up in July so contractually beyond that point it becomes difficult and incurs further costs).

We haven't got that many under contract for next season either, probably 7 or 8 as it stands. We also managed to raise transfer funds and lower the wage bill in January whilst getting past our first season ticket renewal window at the end of February so I'm hoping that'll be enough to see us through this rough patch.

Coming out the other side is going to significantly hit a lot of sides and you have to wonder how some are going to cope. I don't know the ins and outs of other clubs but I'm looking at Accrington, AFCW, Burton and Southend for example and wondering how they're going to cope. Budgets are going to be way down across the board for the next two or three years.

Ron Martin has had nothing but positive things to say since football stopped. Seems certain about the clubs future after deal struck with the council, 6 players are furloughed and all staff but nothing from him like we won’t get through this. No position from him on how he wants the league to finish but of course he wants to be in league one next year it’s a total get out of jail free card he could potentially be thrown

 

[THE LAST WALTZ]

Having just heard Alex Rodman’s leaked WhatsApp message I will be amazed if we finish this season

 

[Indian Dan]

Quite right someone should have leaked it. No time for secrecy.

 

[Muzzle]

I still cannot believe these so called football associations (PL, EFL etc etc), are talking about neutral venues, no fans, limited staff. One of my firends buried an elderly relative who passed away with covid, and at the funeral they were allowed 3 people. Someone needs to get a grip of these guys and explain to them reality for normal people at the moment

 

[Super_horns]

All down to money and pressure from UEFA in the top flight.

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

No fans wouldn't make much of a difference to the Premier League really - the majority of its audience watches on the telly for a start. Different story for those of us living in the real world who actually attend games... The main point is how can they justify using 65,000 testing kits to finish the football season, considering the people who actually need those kits? Surely they'll never get away with it.

 

[Indian Dan]

Even after witnessing death day after day they are still full of their own self importance. It’s staggering really. Trying to spin it as ‘keeping up the country’s spirits in these terrible times’.

It stinks.

 

[Camborne Gills]

You might have thought that the PL might come to its senses, but no. Frankly if the so-called 'Big 6' crashed and burned, i would not be too upset.

Aguero has said he's afraid of returning to England, fine by me, stay at home.

 

[Super_horns]

No fans wouldn't make much of a difference to the Premier League really - the majority of its audience watches on the telly for a start. Different story for those of us living in the real world who actually attend games... The main point is how can they justify using 65,000 testing kits to finish the football season, considering the people who actually need those kits? Surely they'll never get away with it.

Apparently they will pay for the tests but we'll see.

Someome will be silly and get caught not doing the right thing thus ending it all.

Government are probably trying to look good to the football authorities after Hancock hammered the players in public earlier in all this.

After being asked a question in all fairness.

It's only Liverpool and TV fans keen to see the games on ASAP.

Personally I can wait - we'll go down at some point anyway !

 

[Plumbob]

No fans wouldn't make much of a difference to the Premier League really - the majority of its audience watches on the telly for a start. Different story for those of us living in the real world who actually attend games... The main point is how can they justify using 65,000 testing kits to finish the football season, considering the people who actually need those kits? Surely they'll never get away with it.

Not been on here for a while, but was finishing the catch-up before posting the same!
Just to add. Football is a business, an entertainment business. For me, no spectators in the ground renders the whole thing pointless and irrelevant.

 

[Indian Dan]

No fans = no clubs. 18 months without fans = no clubs left when/if things return to ‘normal’.

Let’s face it, football as we know it, is finished.

 

[Luke Imp]

Rick Parry seems to have spoken very well this morning, highlighting various things, in particular a July 31st cut-off date for the season to end, that promotion and relegation places should still happen and the financial disparity between leagues needs to change, highlighting "the evil" of PL parachute payments.

Also pieces from McAnthony and Palios below from today.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...y-it-cant-die-darragh-macanthony-peterborough

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-its-time-for-the-pfa-to-act?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[Indian Dan]

Great piece from MacAnthony. Whether there’s an appetite to save us minnows from those at the top table I have my doubts.

He’s right, though. In the great scheme of things the amount needed to save clubs going bust is small peanuts.

 

[RLC]

I am biased, but the article by Palios is the best analysis of the situation I have read so far. It is a pity we have not got more people of his calibre in senior positions in the English game.

 

[Luke Imp]

Our CEO has just been on the radio and said abandoning the season at this point would cost us £900k and that's before you even consider refunding season ticket holders (I don't think many, if any, would want it anyway), which would probably be another £300k.

 

[Indian Dan]

Sounds about right. Extrapolate from that when guessing when football with fans can return and you’ll struggle sleeping!

No next season ST sales, no sponsors, wages still to be paid - in fact, no income at all.

Bleak.

 

[Luke Imp]

Sounds about right. Extrapolate from that when guessing when football with fans can return and you’ll struggle sleeping!

No next season ST sales, no sponsors, wages still to be paid - in fact, no income at all.

Bleak.

We'd already sold 4,000+ ST's for next season before all this hit so we've struck lucky there because that would have been a significant figure. Three six-figure player sales and trimming the wage bill in January, plus the Cowley compensation will have helped so cash wise we're probably ok until next season but that kind of loss of revenue will certainly catch up with us then.

The problem is when next season will actually be!

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

Looks like we're going to be sent down at the expense of the team in the highest play off position in League 2. Complete joke, it's not fair on us nor the other teams in play off positions. For the first time since 2005 when we beat them 5-0, I'm quite warming to Peterborough. Lovely team with stylish players - what a guy that Marcus Maddison is!

 

[Indian Dan]

Not another one! You’re not being replaced by the play off side in L2. You are 3rd bottom, you, Southend and Bolton are being replaced by the 3 sides in the autos in L2. It’s a shit way to sort things out I agree but nobody could honestly foresee this situation. You and a couple of others are, unfortunately, collateral damage. You’ll get relegated because for 80% of the season you’ve not been good enough.

The 4th side promoted are replacing the now defunct Bury.

 

[Reremnart]

The whole point is that there shouldn`t be a 4th promoted side. The rule state that 3 clubs are automatically promoted and one from the Play Offs. If there are no Play Offs there should be no 4th promoted team. But there again the League is supposed to be decided by each team playing every other team twice and under this farce every team hasn`t.

Of course we are know how Indian Dan`s club would react if they were in our position. You only have to look at the way they cried like bitches when they had promotion took off them in the early 90s for their constant cheating. Yet they expect us, who have done absolutely nothing wrong, to just sit back, shrug our shoulders and say "ah well thats football".

 

[Indian Dan]

Well, it’s not football is it. It’s a fucking pandemic.

I still don’t how having a 4th club promoted has any bearing whatsoever on your plight. You’re 3rd bottom and the bottom 3 are being replaced by the top 3 in L2. 4th doesn’t come into it - they replace Bury anyway.

I’ve said many times it’s a shit thing but no amount of whining can convince me that fucking every club over who look likely to be promoted is better than ppg - apart from, like yourselves, who it affects.

 

[Super_horns]

Brighton players tested positive for Coronavirus as have some German players

Might put ideas of a re-start in doubt.

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

Not another one! You’re not being replaced by the play off side in L2. You are 3rd bottom, you, Southend and Bolton are being replaced by the 3 sides in the autos in L2. It’s a shit way to sort things out I agree but nobody could honestly foresee this situation. You and a couple of others are, unfortunately, collateral damage. You’ll get relegated because for 80% of the season you’ve not been good enough.

The 4th side promoted are replacing the now defunct Bury.

Not another one? Bury technically have zero points, so how are they above us? You can't grant a team a theoretical higher league position for failing to play any games - Bury are 24th and we are fourth bottom. This makes about as much sense as Swindon's 1990 play off scenario, we still haven't forgotten(!) Tad hypocritical of you to accuse us of whinging Dan, sorry mate.

 

[Indian Dan]

Show me Bury in the L1 table.

 

[Camborne Gills]

I don't understand why a team that was expelled from the league, would be brought in to any argument. Even if they were still going, the teams from 21st - 24th would go down.

Yes there are teams who might feel hard done by, but over 30,000 people and their families, are feeling a lot more pain.

 

[Plumbob]

Not another one? Bury technically have zero points, so how are they above us? You can't grant a team a theoretical higher league position for failing to play any games - Bury are 24th and we are fourth bottom. This makes about as much sense as Swindon's 1990 play off scenario, we still haven't forgotten(!) Tad hypocritical of you to accuse of whinging Dan, sorry mate.

We've no vested interest in this at all, and are L1 safe regardless of how the season ends if decided via Excel.
I'm with you on this. Bottom 3 are 22-24 which includes Bury. It's these 3 that should be replaced by the automatic spots in L2. The question is then are Tranmere to be replaced by the play-off winners, or the team 4th in L2? If there are no play-offs, the answer should be no.

 

[Indian Dan]

But L1 has always been a 23 team league this season. Bury had no games scheduled, they’ve never been included in any league table, They’re not getting relegated to L2 so how can they be included in L1 relegation.