EFL Proposing Salary Caps

[LS Bantam]

Well ours was in the region of £2.8m for this/last season, still a lot of those under contract so likely we’d already be in excess of anything brought in for the upcoming year without making a single signing.

 

[AdamStag]

Well ours was in the region of £2.8m for this/last season, still a lot of those under contract so likely we’d already be in excess of anything brought in for the upcoming year without making a single signing.

I’d imagine they’d make allowances for that though, you can’t budget for relegation at the end of the season and your budget being over!

 

[LS Bantam]

I’d imagine they’d make allowances for that though, you can’t budget for relegation at the end of the season and your budget being over!

I think we budgeted for winning League 1 by 100+ points and instead managed to be relegated with that ridiculous wage bill instead.

 

[Indian Dan]

I think we budgeted for winning League 1 by 100+ points and instead managed to be relegated with that ridiculous wage bill instead.

The thought was there, though!

 

[AdamStag]

The thought was there, though!

But exactly. You’d never do well if you budgeted for the wage cap a league below incase you got relegated, it’d clearly be ridiculous.

I do agree with wage caps to a degree but there’s going to be so many holes and flaws with it it’s hard to see how it’s going to work effectively.

 

[Indian Dan]

Tbh, it’s dumbing down to the lowest denominator. There’s nothing wrong with the limits they have now - related to turnover. Just needs policing properly.

Problems arise with money being injected in the hope of a promotion and then the owner deciding he’s had enough. It’s a fine line between your owner and a Steve Dale type.

 

[AdamStag]

Tbh, it’s dumbing down to the lowest denominator. There’s nothing wrong with the limits they have now - related to turnover. Just needs policing properly.

Problems arise with money being injected in the hope of a promotion and then the owner deciding he’s had enough. It’s a fine line between your owner and a Steve Dale type.

I’m not defending it, I just think that clubs should have something else in place, like each club hands over say 2/3 months wages to the EFL As a backup incase they hit problems (appreciate it would have faults of its own) and if you tap into all that money without replenishing it you get docked points.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Tbh, it’s dumbing down to the lowest denominator. There’s nothing wrong with the limits they have now - related to turnover. Just needs policing properly.

Problems arise with money being injected in the hope of a promotion and then the owner deciding he’s had enough. It’s a fine line between your owner and a Steve Dale type.

There's a lot wrong when bang average clubs are paying ridiculous wages without generating the necessary capital to sustain it. Some clubs down in L1 and L2 have gone years without a significant player sale for a start...

 

[AdamStag]

There's a lot wrong when bang average clubs are paying ridiculous wages without generating the necessary capital to sustain it. Some clubs down in L1 and L2 have gone years without a significant player sale for a start...

I don’t think there aren’t any bang average clubs in league 1 or 2.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

I don’t think there aren’t any bang average clubs in league 1 or 2.

Maybe bang average isn't the best term. But even non bankrolled teams at this level and the one above spending £3-4000 a week on a single player has always been barmy. It's only been a recent thing too...

 

[Luke Imp]

The EFL lowering the majority needed is an interesting one, because L1 and L2 are generally in favour of caps but the Championship, as far as I've read, aren't.

If the vote goes ahead it's going to be pretty tight. You'll have the odd L1/L2 Club who won't want it - probably a Sunderland/Ipswich type of Club and the odd Championship Club who would in order to be able to compete in the Championship - Rotherham and Luton (appreciate it's not quite as simplistic as that but that overlap of top of L1 and bottom of the Championship is where the vote will be decided.

 

[That Fat Centre Half]

Our board have said we are in favour of salary caps for what its worth. We were advocating for it back in December before all this made it a slightly more mainstream point of view.

The devil is in the detail of how said salary caps will be imposed though I suspect on whether we would vote for it. The cap Sweet advocated for was linked to turnover I believe with the aim of breaking even.

 

[Indian Dan]

When is any decision on a salary cap expected? Clubs need to know prior to offering contracts, surely.

 

[Luke Imp]

When is any decision on a salary cap expected? Clubs need to know prior to offering contracts, surely.

L1 meeting on Thursday, they've given Clubs some proposed regulation and according to our Chairman, it'll be a 'very poor reflection' on the EFL if they can't get Clubs to agree to a salary cap.

It sounds like the EFL are being a little half arsed about it or not particularly strict around it.

 

[Greenacres]

The clubs could agree on a salary cap but how much faith do we put in them upholding whatever is decided on or for that matter the EFL enforcing it?

 

[Kenneth E End]

L1 meeting on Thursday, they've given Clubs some proposed regulation and according to our Chairman, it'll be a 'very poor reflection' on the EFL if they can't get Clubs to agree to a salary cap.

It sounds like the EFL are being a little half arsed about it or not particularly strict around it.

You sound surprised? The rules also need to work and not put clubs at a disadvantage.

If there are rules to be implemented, they need to be enforced strongly, because teams will absolutely cheat.

 

[Conker]

Having a wage cap in only two divisions in the entire English pyramid

For what it’s worth, in the letter JR sent to the EFL on behalf of L2 clubs he recommends a wage cap pretty firmly so it’s clear this is a popular move within the owners club of lower league football....

 

[Luke Imp]

Having a wage cap in only two divisions in the entire English pyramid

For what it’s worth, in the letter JR sent to the EFL on behalf of L2 clubs he recommends a wage cap pretty firmly so it’s clear this is a popular move within the owners club of lower league football....

Salary cap, not a wage cap, but I know what you mean. It's going to be difficult to get everyone on board. The NL need to be doing the same, at the very least the National League if they want to leave the NLN and NLS alone.

 

[Conker]

Salary cap, not a wage cap, but I know what you mean. It's going to be difficult to get everyone on board. The NL need to be doing the same, at the very least the National League if they want to leave the NLN and NLS alone.

David Sharpe said the other week he’s going off three or four different spreadsheets with potential caps coming in to effect, so I find it’s interesting we’ve already made three signings.

I imagine a cap is pretty popular within the fan bases, although the figures I’ve seen come across too low for me.

 

[T.A]

David Sharpe said the other week he’s going off three or four different spreadsheets with potential caps coming in to effect, so I find it’s interesting we’ve already made three signings.

I imagine a cap is pretty popular within the fan bases, although the figures I’ve seen come across too low for me.

Its impossible to implement for the next season coming. I would expect the changes would be set for the season after.

 

[Chris FGR]

Not impossible. Clubs under the salary cap by that point can't go over it, (a lot of clubs in l2 will be under it as it stands) everyone already over it has a year to get under it or they get points deductions etc.

 

[Spanishstag]

Its impossible to implement for the next season coming. I would expect the changes would be set for the season after.

Good we will be in league one by then

 

[T.A]

Not impossible. Clubs under the salary cap by that point can't go over it, (a lot of clubs in l2 will be under it as it stands) everyone already over it has a year to get under it or they get points deductions etc.

You cant have 50% over it and 50% under it. Its either everyone or no one. Club chairman would be stupid to agree to that.

 

[Luke Imp]

Posted this in L1, and I'm sure the proposal will apply to L2 as well.

"Any L1 player next season who were under contract prior to the salary cap will be incorporated into it as a divisional average wage rather than their actual wage (that will of course balance out over the first two or three years as new contracts are signed). Any player under contract from a relegated Championship Club will be costed in at the higher end of the scale. Haven't heard enough about what they'd do with players who would comfortably fit in with the salary cap, the focus seems to be more on who would become the higher earners who already have deals."

And Kenneth E End posted this last night about the Championship:

"A five per cent ‘overrun facility’ to be included allowing clubs to breach the cap by a small margin, but with a spending tax to be imposed on those who exceed the buffer. The tax would be on a sliding scale - 50p for every £1 overspend up to £600,000, £1 for every £1 from £600,000-£900,000 and £3 for every £1 over £900,000 - and the money shared equally between Championship clubs complying with the cap."

 

[valefan16]

Vale are to vote AGAINST the salary cap as we feel if a club has the money they should be allowed to spend it as long as it is within their means to do so. We expect the decision in League Two to be extremely tight.

 

[Chris FGR]

FGR are to vote FOR the salary cap apparently.

 

[Luke Imp]

Vale are to vote AGAINST the salary cap as we feel if a club has the money they should be allowed to spend it as long as it is within their means to do so. We expect the decision in League Two to be extremely tight.

The EFL have tried that! Admittedly that's down to poor enforcement of the rule and the lax nature of the SCMP (or lack of, at Championship level and non-league).

That said, I'm in favour of the SCMP if done correctly rather than a salary cap. One of the things to tighten up straight away would be for people to put money into Clubs via share purchase or donations, not loaning it and then, as some do, sticking 'x'% interest on it. The latter is an easy way to make money, especially with rates as low as they are at the BoE.

 

[Chris FGR]

Be interesting to see a tally of who's likely to vote which way. Pretty sure the likes of Macc, Morecambe and Carlisle would vote for a cap? Maybe Southend too?

Whereas the likes of Bradford, Bolton and Mansfield probably wouldn't?

 

[chipmunx]

Be interesting to see a tally of who's likely to vote which way. Pretty sure the likes of Macc, Morecambe and Carlisle would vote for a cap? Maybe Southend too?

Whereas the likes of Bradford, Bolton and Mansfield probably wouldn't?

Bolton have no money - but would still certainly vote against it....

 

[Chris FGR]

Sounds like Salford are likely to vote against it too.