FA Cup 2021/22

[Luke Imp]

or just allow the 2 clubs to decide between them, if both agree to settle it in the first leg, fine, if one team doesn't agree, then potential replay it is.

It's something I've been in favour of for years but only if the Clubs are from the same division. For example, do Gillingham and Wigan really want a potential replay? Harrogate and Swindon? Or whoever?

They've been doing it in the FA Trophy for a number of years now where they let the teams decide between them whether it goes to a replay or settled on the day via ET/pens.

That said, I can see where Shoddy's coming from r.e. level playing field. That's perhaps just the luck of the draw, though. Much like getting a money spinning game against a PL side in R3.

 

[Bartonyellow]

You won’t be saying that if you manage to take a big club to a replay at their place in Round 3.

I think I would. I get it for non league teams but it’s just too much. You get 40 percentage of the gate money anyway, so if we drew man united away and drew - we already have our pay day. And to penalties it goes.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Surprised so many are in favour of getting rid of replays. Personally, I like the route ourselves and Bradford went down. Best of 3 matches.

 

[Devon_Lad]

I think I would. I get it for non league teams but it’s just too much. You get 40 percentage of the gate money anyway, so if we drew man united away and drew - we already have our pay day. And to penalties it goes.

What if you get United at home and draw, then get knocked out in extra time / pens, and then you don't get a big Old Trafford payday..

 

[Bartonyellow]

What if you get United at home and draw, then get knocked out in extra time / pens, and then you don't get a big Old Trafford payday..

I get that - but I also accept it is to reduce fixture congestion and unnecessary trips.
this did happen to us, in 06 we drew at home to united and then lost the replay ( still the record for away fans at old Trafford amazingly) and made a lot of money as it was live on the bbc plus 55000 at the ground.
But things have changed since then. I think there needs something to protect non league clubs and perhaps league 2. Maybe the gate receipts are split differently so you don’t miss out on the payday ?
Example - instead of 40% each, perhaps 70% to the smaller team, 10% for the bigger team and 20% fa as it is now.

 

[Devon_Lad]

I get that - but I also accept it is to reduce fixture congestion and unnecessary trips.

I just don't think playing 3 times a week is really that much, and think the complaints are unwarranted. (Sat-Tue-Sat) how can a squad of 20ish players not be capable of that? I just don't buy it and would much rather the entire season was like it, to be honest. Anyone seen the NHL fixture congestion each year? Bleddy 'ell.

 

[denzel ecfc]

Nah, everyone should be playing by the same rules. Having some teams arrive in the next round following one draw with extra-time and penalties and another team having a draw then a replay would lessen the idea of the FA Cup providing a level playing field.

I think the gist of it is that big clubs (whatever big is for the current round, so league teams in Round 1, Premiership in Round 3 etc) will want to get a result on the night but smaller teams will favour a replay. So games between big clubs will be the ones where they get a result on the night. It may seem like it suits everyone but something about their being two paths through the competition doesn't seem very 'FA-cup-like' to me. I'm sure teams would adjust their playing styles too if they knew there wasn't going to be a replay so you could have different games in the same round being played under different rules and this affecting the football on the pitch.

I do expect that bigger clubs, especially Premier League ones would be open to paying smaller clubs for them to turn down the replay. Again, seems like it suits everyone... the small club gets more than the money they would have gotten for the replay and is arguably more likely to progress since replays probably do favour the bigger teams, who having put in a poor performance to only scrape a draw against lesser opposition go into them determined not to do that again. But if that's the case then just scrap replays altogether.

Its not a level playing field due to the luck of the draw. Spurs played Marine last season, they could rest all their first team and still go through, whereas other PL teams drew each other.
At least you could theoretically say that the Marine game could go to a replay at WHL, whereas there's no reason for, say, West Ham and Leeds to do so.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

I get that - but I also accept it is to reduce fixture congestion and unnecessary trips.
this did happen to us, in 06 we drew at home to united and then lost the replay ( still the record for away fans at old Trafford amazingly) and made a lot of money as it was live on the bbc plus 55000 at the ground.
But things have changed since then. I think there needs something to protect non league clubs and perhaps league 2. Maybe the gate receipts are split differently so you don’t miss out on the payday ?
Example - instead of 40% each, perhaps 70% to the smaller team, 10% for the bigger team and 20% fa as it is now.

Barrow vs Stockport - who gets the 70%?

 

[Bartonyellow]

Barrow vs Stockport - who gets the 70%?

That would retain the 40% each rule. The 70% should be for any of the top two divisional teams playing anyone below them. (League one and below ).

 

[Trapdoor]

I love pens me. Just fuck it off after 90 and go straight to the shootout.

 

[denzel ecfc]

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I love pens me. Just fuck it off after 90 and go straight to the shootout.

Er, that happened in the league Cup and we went out. And we beat Bradford in extra time....

 

[shoddycollins]

Its not a level playing field due to the luck of the draw. Spurs played Marine last season, they could rest all their first team and still go through, whereas other PL teams drew each other.
At least you could theoretically say that the Marine game could go to a replay at WHL, whereas there's no reason for, say, West Ham and Leeds to do so.

I don't think that's what people usually mean by level playing field though. Spurs had no in-built advantage over Marine, there are no seeds and everybody follows the same rules. Their advantage was simply that they have far better players. Any other club could have drawn Marine, and the fact that Marine are bobbins isn't relevant to the competition, with the notable exception of clubs at different levels coming in at different rounds, the competition doesn't distinguish between a non-league club and a Premier League club and that's kind of what people like about it.

If, to use the example you gave, Spurs and Marine did go to a replay but West Ham and Leeds settle it on the night, then Spurs might argue that it's unfair that their draw means they have to play an extra game, whereas their Premier League rivals drew but didn't play a extra game.

 

[denzel ecfc]

But if you have replays now, you should have them for every round.
Otherwise that means that lower clubs have to play more games to get into subsequent rounds. Of course that would mean affecting PL clubs, so won't happen...

 

[northstandexile]

This season there are no replays after the fourth round.

 

[Greenacres]

This season there are no replays after the fourth round.

What is the fourth round...never been there before!

 

[Bartonyellow]

What is the fourth round...never been there before!

Good point..let’s be honest round 4 is usually the top 2 divisions bar the odd freak league 1 or 2 club

 

[AdamStag]

or just allow the 2 clubs to decide between them, if both agree to settle it in the first leg, fine, if one team doesn't agree, then potential replay it is.

I believe that this option is available to clubs in the earlier qualifying rounds.

Personally i’m not for it but don’t see why it’s not an option.

 

[valefan16]

Good point..let’s be honest round 4 is usually the top 2 divisions bar the odd freak league 1 or 2 club

We’ve done it once since 2006…

Got to round three excited for a big draw… got Plymouth (league below at the time)… took a replay to dispatch them all for the reward of a home tie with Brighton (Championship at the time)! How exciting that wasn’t!

Usually when we go as far as round three we get someone like Burnley or Huddersfield and lose. The Man City tie was a rare good draw for us!

Like when we negotiated the League Cup first two rounds beating both Sheffield clubs just to get then Championship Scunthorpe away!

Good draws seem very rare!

 

[valefan16]

I believe that this option is available to clubs in the earlier qualifying rounds.

Personally i’m not for it but don’t see why it’s not an option.

The issue with round 2 this year is you’ve had a league game Tuesday, Saturday… then a paint pot if through this past Tuesday before a league game the Tuesday after the tie and then potentially.another game the following Tuesday with a replay just before the Christmas games.

If it has been the league game before and Pizza Game after this weekends game would feel less risky but considering we had loads of free Tuesdays earlier in the season not sure why they’ve put two league games right there when you have potentially two midweek cup ties and Xmas fixtures together.

 

[Bartonyellow]

We’ve done it once since 2006…

Got to round three excited for a big draw… got Plymouth (league below at the time)… took a replay to dispatch them all for the reward of a home tie with Brighton (Championship at the time)! How exciting that wasn’t!

Usually when we go as far as round three we get someone like Burnley or Huddersfield and lose. The Man City tie was a rare good draw for us!

Like when we negotiated the League Cup first two rounds beating both Sheffield clubs just to get then Championship Scunthorpe away!

Good draws seem very rare!

Well Christmas has come early for you then. As you get to see Jimmy floyd hasselbank in the flesh. Drink it in vale fans. You’ve made it. No need for round 4.

 

[Bartonyellow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1466829463132553217

Vale fans - have a look out for this near the main stand. It’s not oatcakes like you ruffians are used to, but it might soak up the pedigree

 

[Sestonpoolie]

Parking and also getting into Lincoln full stop, so I'd give yourself a little more time. Saturday is always the busiest day for the market.

Parking wise, there's the below link on our OS with car parks that have offers on, on matchdays. I'd suggest Tentercroft Street (LN5 7DB) first, then Lincoln Central (LN5 7BP). The former is the closest to SB (10 min walk), the latter is slightly further away at the train station but it closer to the high street if you're planning on food and drinks before the game. The latter is also about 3x the size so probably more chance of getting in there.

If you get there before 12.30pm, there's a decent chance of off-street parking.

There's also a school who offer parking, which is basically outside the away end (LN5 8EU). Not sure how busy it gets because get there about 12ish and use off-street parking near it. If you're wanting to get out quickly after the game I'd avoid the school and off-street parking and go to the first two suggestions, which are both straight out onto main routes out of Lincoln.

Matchday parking options - Lincoln City

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Setting off at 9am,so plenty of time for some mulled wine.

 

[shoddycollins]

We’ve done it once since 2006…

Got to round three excited for a big draw… got Plymouth (league below at the time)… took a replay to dispatch them all for the reward of a home tie with Brighton (Championship at the time)! How exciting that wasn’t!

Usually when we go as far as round three we get someone like Burnley or Huddersfield and lose. The Man City tie was a rare good draw for us!

Like when we negotiated the League Cup first two rounds beating both Sheffield clubs just to get then Championship Scunthorpe away!

Good draws seem very rare!

We did it a few years back. Beat the mighty Yeovil in he third round. First game was at bloomfield Road after Brunton Park flooded. We won the replay on penalties. Jabo escaped a red card after clotheslining their keeper and Zoko missed a penalty just before full time.

 

[valefan16]

Surprising team news for us, Worrall left out as is Covolan and Cass. Gamble here but shows that Tuesday coming is being valued more for me.

 

[kieran_vale]

Surprising team news for us, Worrall left out as is Covolan and Cass. Gamble here but shows that Tuesday coming is being valued more for me.

Rightly so. Today is just a bonus if we win. Besides does give us more flexibility off the bench with five subs allowed in this if needed.

 

[valefan16]

Rightly so. Today is just a bonus if we win. Besides does give us more flexibility off the bench with five subs allowed in this if needed.

True. Stone deserves a go and Benning is capable.

 

[Vale on Trent]

Can FA cup games be watched anywhere on IPTV? Can somebody help a brother out please?

 

[valefan16]

Can FA cup games be watched anywhere on IPTV? Can somebody help a brother out please?

It’s not on IFollow at all even abroad is it? Only chance would be if it’s on live TV abroad somewhere.

 

[Boz]

Rovers switch to a back 3 for the trip to Orient.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Super Sam Nombe puts us 1 up at Cambridge.