Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

[WhiteRussian]

It looks like the Ipswich fans on TWTD are convinced they are going to walk in and take Manning and his whole coaching team from us. Can I suggest that Paul Cook goes to Preston, Lowe goes to Ipswich and we keep Manning. All sorted!!!

 

[DippyDon]

It looks like the Ipswich fans on TWTD are convinced they are going to walk in and take Manning and his whole coaching team from us. Can I suggest that Paul Cook goes to Preston, Lowe goes to Ipswich and we keep Manning. All sorted!!!

I cannot be arsed for the same thing to happen twice in a single season

 

[DearneValleyRover]

Apparently our interviews will be sorted by Friday however there is going to be a real change in thinking at the Club. A DoF is going to be appointed and more coaching staff, I think the owners have finally realised that we can only be sustainable if you build something that is able to sustain itself and that will only happen if we can reach the championship again and be like Rotherham

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Club announcement as I suggested above. Lowe moved on Schuey is First Team Manager, though I could not see if that was permanent or as I was told interim.

 

[MatthewArgyle]

I think it might be interim

 

[DippyDon]

The pettiness behind that Plymouth statement is brilliant. Briefly saying Lowe has resigned in the middle of announcing the assistant as the new manager, excellent to see.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

So it looks like Lowe resigned, which means we get little or no compensation, which I am not happy about. But it also means Lowe has not necessarily signed with Preston yet. Would be quite amusing if they go for someone else now.

From the statement the club are clearly very ticked off with Lowe.

 

[SF_]

So it looks like Lowe resigned, which means we get little or no compensation, which I am not happy about. But it also means Lowe has not necessarily signed with Preston yet. Would be quite amusing if they go for someone else now.

From the statement the club are clearly very ticked off with Lowe.

I don't think anyone else is in the running for us, I don't buy it for one second that this has only been in the pipeline for a couple of days.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

I don't think anyone else is in the running for us, I don't buy it for one second that this has only been in the pipeline for a couple of days.

Nor do I. I don’t blame Lowe wanting to sleep in his own bed every night. What I am struggling with is why resign. The club statement said that under his contract he had the right to talk to another club, so why resign?

 

[Boletus Edulis]

The pettiness behind that Plymouth statement is brilliant. Briefly saying Lowe has resigned in the middle of announcing the assistant as the new manager, excellent to see.

I am guessing there is a big back story here. We have no idea what has been said behind the scenes, but signing him in the first place was very protracted and included compensation to Bury. If he has resigned and the club don’t get a penny then that might explain the terseness of the statement. I suspect more will come out in the wash.

 

[SF_]

Nor do I. I don’t blame Lowe wanting to sleep in his own bed every night. What I am struggling with is why resign. The club statement said that under his contract he had the right to talk to another club, so why resign?

The only thing I could think of is if PNE said 'we want you here, but we're not paying the £1m buyout clause, or whatever, so resign and we'll pay a quarter of it'. Only thing that makes sense in my mind.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

I think everyone agrees that what is different this year from last has been the recruitment. Central to that was Neil Dewsnip. Key for us is to keep him as well as Schuey.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

The only thing I could think of is if PNE said 'we want you here, but we're not paying the £1m buyout clause, or whatever, so resign and we'll pay a quarter of it'. Only thing that makes sense in my mind.

Very cynical, but at the moment the obvious thought. And if true this would explain the club statement.

 

[SF_]

Very cynical, but at the moment the obvious thought. And if true this would explain the club statement.

Who knows how big a role the agent plays too, it could be his advice rather than North End's.

Wouldn't put anything past dirty Ridsdale though.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Who knows how big a role the agent plays too, it could be his advice rather than North End's.

Wouldn't put anything past dirty Ridsdale though.

Your last sentence is interesting. Lowe is cashing in Hallett for Ridsdale. He may be in for a shock.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

I don't think anyone else is in the running for us, I don't buy it for one second that this has only been in the pipeline for a couple of days.

Lowe seems pretty wedded to 3-5-2. What do you play?

 

[SF_]

Your last sentence is interesting. Lowe is cashing in Hallett for Ridsdale. He may be in for a shock.

I know nothing about Hallett but most of us think Ridsdale has outstayed his welcome here.

That said, the speed in which we got this done suggests that Craig Hemmings might be a bit more proactive than his dad in terms of making the big decisions.

 

[SF_]

Lowe seems pretty wedded to 3-5-2. What do you play?

3-5-2.

Badly.

 

[TractorBoys]

It looks like the Ipswich fans on TWTD are convinced they are going to walk in and take Manning and his whole coaching team from us. Can I suggest that Paul Cook goes to Preston, Lowe goes to Ipswich and we keep Manning. All sorted!!!

Wouldn't read too much into that, tbh. If we did want to poach though, I don't really see any obstacles to us in getting them all. However, Ashton came out yesterday confirming there is nobody currently lined up & the search may take a while with Mcgreal trusted between now and then. Betting odds right now shoud be ignored.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

I know nothing about Hallett but most of us think Ridsdale has outstayed his welcome here.

That said, the speed in which we got this done suggests that Craig Hemmings might be a bit more proactive than his dad in terms of making the big decisions.

do you know of Kieran Maguire from the Football Finance blog, and lecturer at Liverpool in Football Finance? He literally can’t praise Hallett high enough. if Kieran says he is one of the good guys, then take it that he is.

Risdale was in charge during our administration. i’ll Leave it there.

we suspect this has gone on for a couple of weeks at least, hence why the Schuey centred podcast came out last week.

 

[SMH]

You can’t resign and walk straight into another club without that club paying compensation. Otherwise every manager that wants to move would do it.

On a side note, I’ve never understood why in the modern game compensation fees for managers are so low compared to transfer fees for players. The manager is just as if not more important than a club’s best player. They should be commanding multi million buyout clauses, although I’m guessing that means if you wanted to sack them, you’d have to pay multi millions to do so, which probably explains it.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

3-5-2.

Badly.

On a side note, be interested to see how long before Lowe uses the term “different class.” He uses it all the time, such as “the boys have been different class.”

 

[WhiteRussian]

Wouldn't read too much into that, tbh. If we did want to poach though, I don't really see any obstacles to us in getting them all. However, Ashton came out yesterday confirming there is nobody currently lined up & the search may take a while with Mcgreal trusted between now and then. Betting odds right now shoud be ignored.

I would be uttery stunned if you have sacked him with no plan in place or targets to replace him with. You might as well bumble on as you were and do you really think McGreal is an improvement?

Unless of course behind the scenes much worse was brewing.

 

[TractorBoys]

I would be uttery stunned if you have sacked him with no plan in place or targets to replace him with. You might as well bumble on as you were and do you really think McGreal is an improvement?

Unless of course behind the scenes much worse was brewing.

No, I don't see Mcgreal as a long term solution.

Unless he wins every game, I think we can be sure of an appointment prior to Jan window as we will be active within it so that's imperative.

 

[GTFCfish]

I don't want a change just yet and I'm confident his job isn't under any threat.

 

[Bar Carousel]

You can’t resign and walk straight into another club without that club paying compensation. Otherwise every manager that wants to move would do it.

On a side note, I’ve never understood why in the modern game compensation fees for managers are so low compared to transfer fees for players. The manager is just as if not more important than a club’s best player. They should be commanding multi million buyout clauses, although I’m guessing that means if you wanted to sack them, you’d have to pay multi millions to do so, which probably explains it.

The logical thing to do here is Plymouth reject the notice of resignation (he's tied under employment contract), and put him on gardening leave. Preston's plan to have him in place blocked, forcing both clubs to work out a deal?

Risky if Preston go elsewhere instead I suppose, but you've gotta fight fire with fire.

 

[LeonTheGreen]

Strange day. He obviously got us playing some good stuff and what not, but weirdly I’m not that arsed?

 

[Luke Imp]

You can’t resign and walk straight into another club without that club paying compensation. Otherwise every manager that wants to move would do it.

On a side note, I’ve never understood why in the modern game compensation fees for managers are so low compared to transfer fees for players. The manager is just as if not more important than a club’s best player. They should be commanding multi million buyout clauses, although I’m guessing that means if you wanted to sack them, you’d have to pay multi millions to do so, which probably explains it.

We do that - £1m for the Cowleys and £750k for Appleton.

The Cowleys are our record transfer.

 

[TractorBoys]

We've apparently approached Lampard. Seems a stretch but multiple sources.

John Terry interested.

 

[Millerbri]

We've apparently approached Lampard. Seems a stretch but multiple sources.

John Terry interested.

Niether John Terry or Frank Lampard have a clue about lower league football, it's just the owner trying to make a stellar type name appointment to try and get Ipswich fans back onside.

Clubs in this league already raise their game when playing the "big boys" Sunderland, Wednesday and yourselves.
Can you imagine how much more we will all want to beat a team with JT or FL in charge?

Getting promotion is not about signing all the best players, putting a big name in the dugout and hoping they come good.
It's about building a team that believes in the philosophy of the manager and willing to work their bollocks off for him.

Paul Warne is a Norwich fan so totally unsuitable for the post BTW.