League 1 Promotion Thread

[Saddlerrad]

About the same amount of experience at this level as Dwight Gayle who went for about £8m including add ons I believe.

Peterborough do seem to be doing quite well out of all this.

Makes my quote of £1m for Tom Bradshaw look like I'm vastly underestimating.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

To slightly alter the sentance of the City fan above - The Championship is awash with fairly average players on huge money, IMHO. A side coming up from League One with a canny manager and a squad that is a solid unit, has some pace in it, a striker who can finish - will do well. Just need to do the basics well.

7 or 8 of our regular starting line up came up with us from L1, it's not as if we've had to buy a whole new team since coming up.

 

[Ciderup]

To slightly alter the sentance of the City fan above - The Championship is awash with fairly average players on huge money, IMHO. A side coming up from League One with a canny manager and a squad that is a solid unit, has some pace in it, a striker who can finish - will do well. Just need to do the basics well.

7 or 8 of our regular starting line up came up with us from L1, it's not as if we've had to buy a whole new team since coming up.

Fair comments Mark. My remark wasn't a criticism. The 'money' thing still stands though but I do agree there are a lot of average players on ridiculous wages up there!

 

[Heisenberg20]

It would never ever bother me if we never reached 'The promised land', The Football League is where its at.
Watching a team full of overrated foreigners on big wages with no attachment with fans and team is not what I want at Bristol City, not to mention we would be the whipping boys.
Eventually and hopefully 'the elite' will clear off into their own little league

However, a team like Burnley I respect massively for how they have done it.

 

[Indian Dan]

To slightly alter the sentance of the City fan above - The Championship is awash with fairly average players on huge money, IMHO. A side coming up from League One with a canny manager and a squad that is a solid unit, has some pace in it, a striker who can finish - will do well. Just need to do the basics well.

7 or 8 of our regular starting line up came up with us from L1, it's not as if we've had to buy a whole new team since coming up.

But when you've got a club with crowds of 10,000 offering £5m for a Championship player, summat's not right.

No matter what Bornmuff and their ilk achieve in the short term we all know where they will end up eventually.

 

[Heisenberg20]

But when you've got a club with crowds of 10,000 offering £5m for a Championship player, summat's not right.

No matter what Bornmuff and their ilk achieve in the short term we all know where they will end up eventually.

In the Prem?

 

[AFCB_Mark]

But when you've got a club with crowds of 10,000 offering £5m for a Championship player, summat's not right.

No matter what Bornmuff and their ilk achieve in the short term we all know where they will end up eventually.

2.5m now and 2.5m in the event of any promotion to the Premiership, so not quite the headline figure - but I take your point - it's still unbelievable money for us. And it wouldn't be available for us without the 3 Russians that own the club. But the biggest thing that backing has done for us, is allow us to keep our good League One players and continue developing them. Able to turn away Fulham's 5m January interest in Matt Ritchie, for example.

The values of players increase ridiculously in the Championship, and it's starting to happen for top end League One players as well (as has been touched upon already in this thread).

Where it'll stop - god knows.

 

[SF_]

We over-spent to compete but I wouldn't say we threw money at it, we never had the resources to and any decent-sized fees we paid out we're a result of large fees received.

Our wage bill grew out of control though, mainly due to poor judgment by Alan Irvine who was stupidly backed by Derek Shaw.

 

[Indian Dan]

I suppose we (i.e L1 clubs) could aspire to be Southampton - albeit they have been an established top flight for a lot of the previous years.

City might manage it - even if just for a while - but there's always another Blackpool waiting for a scaggy owner. Even Wigan with their years in the PL and Dave Whelan are now returning from whence they came.

Just enjoy the day, I suppose - wherever you are

 

[Crewelad87]

Could we have not restarted the league 10 games ago

 

[BCFC David]

Could we have not restarted the league 10 games ago

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Got to laugh, according to Peter Beagrie on the FL72 we have gone off the boil as of late .

Useless ****

 

[hodge]

 

[The Hand of Dom]

We do well because we don't need to sell unless it's a stupid offer.

Realistically, no one at this level is going to turn down what we got for Assombalonga or Gayle and we would have been fucking stupid to do so to, so they went.

Same as when we got £3m for CMS with a year left, a hefty loan fee for Boyd with 5 months left etc. Preston are probably one of very few clubs who are similar to us in that respect, hence Garner won't leave unless it is silly money, or he does a Lee Tomlin and gets sent off every week.

 

[Ciderup]

Got to laugh, according to Peter Beagrie on the FL72 we have gone off the boil as of late .

Useless ****

I saw that. What a cock! The rest of the league had better hope we stay 'off the boil' as 19 points out of 21 when we're 'off the boil' ain't bad!

 

[RavenBish]

I suppose we (i.e L1 clubs) could aspire to be Southampton

Get bought by a billionaire, have an average home attendance of 22,000 in League 1 with a squad of 3 future England internationals (plus Schneiderlin & Fonte), one of which is sold whilst in League 1 for a 8 figure fee.

Seems like rather unlikely aspirations.

 

[Luke_ciderhead]

Get bought by a billionaire, have an average home attendance of 22,000 in League 1 with a squad of 3 future England internationals (plus Schneiderlin & Fonte), one of which is sold whilst in League 1 for a 8 figure fee.

Seems like rather unlikely aspirations.

And despite all that, they didnt manage to win the title, a much more modest Brighton did instead.

 

[Luke_ciderhead]

So what chance does a 'normal' club have of even competing in the Championship?

Brentford and Muff are both being bankrolled at the moment and look what happened to some clubs who previously threw money at it.

Yes, I'm looking at you Bristol City and Preston - was it worth it? Are you about to do it again? Are you bothered if you do?

I'm beginning to think it would be preferable to be a solid Championship club then tilting at, or even achieving, the PL.

Theres no denying that we threw money around in an attempt to reach the premiership. The reason we failed imho (and id better get my tin hat on) is that we backed the wrong man. Gary Johnson for all that he did for us, wasted our budget on highly paid below par players like Alvaro Saborio, Peter Styvar and Evander Sno. He couldnt cut it when it came to managing bigger names and thus we flopped.

I have no doubt that Landsdown will get the chequebook out again should we go up, but this time it seems that we have a better infrastructure with a younger snd more solid spine to the team, and much bettet facilities being built to attract players and gain non matchday revenue. I hope that we've learned from our mistakes.

Id also like us to reach the premier league if only so that the people of Bristol can finally wake up and realise that they have a football team! Plus it would annoy the sags.

 

[Indian Dan]

Based on Cotterill's less than salubrious record in the Championship - is he the right man to be spending the cash?

Horses for courses and all that

 

[Bcfc@downend]

Based on Cotterill's less than salubrious record in the Championship - is he the right man to be spending the cash?

Horses for courses and all that

I would want promotion from this league first,,,,, granted we are in a very good position,but we cannot take it for granted, with still a long way to go....

 

[TTOCS]

Theres no denying that we threw money around in an attempt to reach the premiership. The reason we failed imho (and id better get my tin hat on) is that we backed the wrong man. Gary Johnson for all that he did for us, wasted our budget on highly paid below par players like Alvaro Saborio, Peter Styvar and Evander Sno. He couldnt cut it when it came to managing bigger names and thus we flopped.

I have no doubt that Landsdown will get the chequebook out again should we go up, but this time it seems that we have a better infrastructure with a younger snd more solid spine to the team, and much bettet facilities being built to attract players and gain non matchday revenue. I hope that we've learned from our mistakes.

Id also like us to reach the premier league if only so that the people of Bristol can finally wake up and realise that they have a football team! Plus it would annoy the sags.

Who were we suppose to back then? Coppell? Millen? McInnes? SOD? A wide range of managers there who all failed. Although they did have a hard job following the most successful City manager in our lifetime.

Sno was a fantastic player, if anything used out of position. Saborio also continues to be a good player who was unlucky here. Styvar was shit. But as a smaller club in Championship we gambled on some cheaper foreign names in the hope they'd be the missing link. Our expenditure was still nowhere near the top of the Championship.

 

[Bcfc@downend]

cotterill....

has certainly ' clicked ' with our club.....
As with all reasonable managers, ..... Much to my surprise, was not enamoured with his appointment to start with - like many city fans initially......
But sometimes some managers are just the right fit at certain clubs at just the right time

 

[TTOCS]

Part of Johnson's charm was his loyalty. Cotterill is well on the way to achieving almost as much as Johnson with City but I fear with his reputation restored he'll be off to bigger things within a year. We'll see.

 

[Indian Dan]

Can't see him being offered anything that could be a much better fit for him TBH.

Maybe experience of overreaching himself will see him realise he's better off where he is.

Whether your Mr Lansdowne feels the same remains to be seen.

BTW, time to drop your faux promotion worries

 

[Bcfc@downend]

Faux promotion worries ?

As we have seen in last week things can change very swiftly with one or two defeats for any of the top teams.... Bcfc are in a good place.... Come May ( or hopefully earlier ) is what counts.
Think majority of city fans are pretty confident but not over confident....

 

[D B Disco]

BTW, time to drop your faux promotion worries

The last time we were in this league, we had 10 years of "this is our season" only to constantly fall short. You'll have to forgive us if we harbour niggling worries.

 

[Indian Dan]

Who doesn't!

I put up a post on another topic suggesting the team that finishes 2nd appears to do better in the Championship than the actual winners.

Can think of no logical reason why - but it happens more often than it should, especially in the last 10 years

 

[Inspector Todd]

Theres no denying that we threw money around in an attempt to reach the premiership. The reason we failed imho (and id better get my tin hat on) is that we backed the wrong man. Gary Johnson for all that he did for us, wasted our budget on highly paid below par players like Alvaro Saborio, Peter Styvar and Evander Sno. He couldnt cut it when it came to managing bigger names and thus we flopped.

I have no doubt that Landsdown will get the chequebook out again should we go up, but this time it seems that we have a better infrastructure with a younger snd more solid spine to the team, and much bettet facilities being built to attract players and gain non matchday revenue. I hope that we've learned from our mistakes.

Id also like us to reach the premier league if only so that the people of Bristol can finally wake up and realise that they have a football team! Plus it would annoy the sags.

This last paragraph is probably the reason I wouldn't mind seeing you lot reach the Premiership. A city the size of Bristol really should have a better supported club, the new stadium will give you a great chance of that.

You must weep seeing Bristolians in Liverpool or other Premier shirts. Very good mate of mine is from Bristol, born and bred and he supports Arsenal FFS.

 

[hodge]

IF (and still a pretty big if at this stage) we get promoted I think Cotterill given extra spending power wouldn't be a bad thing, look at his signings this season for example, he or whoever is currently helping him have a great eye for a player.

 

[Gerry Gow]

This last paragraph is probably the reason I wouldn't mind seeing you lot reach the Premiership. A city the size of Bristol really should have a better supported club, the new stadium will give you a great chance of that.

You must weep seeing Bristolians in Liverpool or other Premier shirts. Very good mate of mine is from Bristol, born and bred and he supports Arsenal FFS.

We do have a pretty good core of supporters but not enough to sustain Premier League football in the future. I get tired of hearing the sleeping giant rubbish, if we want to succeed and attract more supporters then we have to perform and move up the football ladder.

We've struggled to do that in our history, it's always been 1 step forward and 2 steps back with City.

 

[Bcfc@downend]

We do have a pretty good core of supporters but not enough to sustain Premier League football in the future. I get tired of hearing the sleeping giant rubbish, if we want to succeed and attract more supporters then we have to perform and move up the football ladder.

We've struggled to do that in our history, it's always been 1 step forward and 2 steps back with City.

Agree with your points..... But with new stadium complete in a couple of years and the whole way the club seems to be run now, I think a few years down the line if we got to the prem..... We really could kick on big time

And btw I have watched city since 1970...... So really have got fed up with the sleeping giant shit..... Be really hope/think things can be very different in the next half a dozen years