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That place looks familiar
Perhaps he was trying to do the 92?

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Ours would have been much higher if we weren’t so shite last season.
 

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Don't know if Moomin still reads this forum but I'm sure he is over the moon tonight.
 

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Morecambes transfer embargo has been lifted

Got to be somewhat of a relief for Morecambe that for now. Does feel unless there’s a change of owner Derek Adams is going to have to do a manager of the year type job to keep you up though.
 

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“Successful conclusion” my arse, they expected to be way higher up the ladder by now instead of stagnating in this shite league.
 

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“Successful conclusion” my arse, they expected to be way higher up the ladder by now instead of stagnating in this shite league.

Fair point that. For the wages they’ve paid at this level think they’ve only even come somewhat close to promotion once and the other seasons been bang average. Don’t really even have the infrastructure behind them either so can see them start to circle the drain before long.
 

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They lose money hand over fist. There is no way the Class of 92 has the kind of money needed to sustain significant 7 figure losses. This is all coming to its inevitable conclusion. They'll be out of the league in the next few seasons. Hopefully anyway.
 

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Like him or loathe him, Gary Neville is one of the biggest commercial developers in Manchester. He probably doesn't have anything like the wealth of Lim, but he offers a different owners skillset.
 

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Well only 5 more days for the Willy waving to start, good luck to all except when playing us :bdick:
 

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The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.
 

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The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.
Do they have a training ground now? I know on one of the TV series they were really struggling with that.
 

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Four year anniversary today of our club being saved. Would be supporting an AFC Chesterfield or Chesterfield Town if it wasn’t for the trust, so I will be forever grateful to them taking the club on at a time where no one else would touch it with a barge pole!

Four years down the line, we managed to attract one of our best ever managers back to the club, we’ve got local businessmen brothers at the helm with the clubs best interests at heart, record ST sales & back in the football league at last. Been some journey. Dark days under the previous regime beginning to feel like a lifetime ago, thankfully.

 

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Do they have a training ground now? I know on one of the TV series they were really struggling with that.

Don’t think so still was in progress due to finding land which is the bigger issue, they were after the rugby league ground which I am assuming has a lot of this stuff there.

That ground would be bloody ridiculous for them, it would be like Darlington the ground is miles out the way with no transport links and holds vastly more than they can attract.

The big problem is they have rose too quickly for their original plans I went to see a Salford game during their first season and that ground was frankly a small wooden stand, some grass banks and a little shed Terrance stand, their fanbase were all mobile phone photo clickers not there for matches but to catch a glance of visiting celebs, it has always just had to rely on money to keep growing because there is no base actual club.

I always thought it said everything when years ago went to their Workington play off final to watch a group of their ‘fans’ behind me being directed by a tv producer on how to shown emotions like ‘worry’ and ‘excitement’ for their cameras because they didn’t show these naturally in a play off final
 

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The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.

Once the novelty value goes then a club settles to a 'natural' level. It'll happen to us at some point im sure. The difference between us and Salford is that we already have a solid fanbase, and we will be left in a better position than where we were with ownership or our own ground and a training facility (hopefully) so should be able to settle back to a decent level. Maybe with more 'normal' ownership which would let us sustain League one or two football quite comfortably.

Salford have never really built up a fanbase and don't really have any infrastructure so when things start to resettle there is a good possibility they slide back down to regional football if they survive at all. Depends how long the class of 92 want to keep absorbing losses.
 

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I tend to use the Rushden and Diamonds comparison with FGR, but they had well over a decade in the Conference before Vince's money and could have potentially kept going at that level.

The Salford and Rushden similarities are far greater though. No real history at a level above regional divisions of non-league (Rushden Town in the Southern League and Salford in the Northern Premier League), then massive influx of cash and meteoric rise up the divisions. No foundation created whatsoever and no real hope of gaining a stronger fanbase.

It's telling that AFC Rushden and Diamonds have stalled at the regional division of the Norther Premier League since re-forming.
 

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I tend to use the Rushden and Diamonds comparison with FGR, but they had well over a decade in the Conference before Vince's money and could have potentially kept going at that level.

The Salford and Rushden similarities are far greater though. No real history at a level above regional divisions of non-league (Rushden Town in the Southern League and Salford in the Northern Premier League), then massive influx of cash and meteoric rise up the divisions. No foundation created whatsoever and no real hope of gaining a stronger fanbase.

It's telling that AFC Rushden and Diamonds have stalled at the regional division of the Norther Premier League since re-forming.
Thats the key isn't it, more traditional clubs with bigger histories/fan bases often come back, Wimbledon, Macclesfield on their way, Darlington all be it fairly slowly, Bury likely will when they sort themselves out but clubs like Rushden or Salford would just end up back at their natural level.

I expected Salford to go through to L1 level and possibly above purely on the money at the time they flew up to L2 but guess they just hit their ceiling and not winning every week probably will see their fan base dwindle further, all be it they seem to have actually had some rising in attendances but like on Saturday 1300+ of that is going to be away fans.
 

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Thats the key isn't it, more traditional clubs with bigger histories/fan bases often come back, Wimbledon, Macclesfield on their way, Darlington all be it fairly slowly, Bury likely will when they sort themselves out but clubs like Rushden or Salford would just end up back at their natural level.

I expected Salford to go through to L1 level and possibly above purely on the money at the time they flew up to L2 but guess they just hit their ceiling and not winning every week probably will see their fan base dwindle further, all be it they seem to have actually had some rising in attendances but like on Saturday 1300+ of that is going to be away fans.
Sadly I'm not sure Darlington are going anywhere anytime soon. Didn't they just get relegated from the NLN?

One of the 'at least were not them' teams you'd consider after we'd lose 2-0 to borehamwood or something.
 

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