League 2 General Chat Thread

BRFC_Gas

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 10, 2015
Messages
3,015
Reaction score
1,110
Points
113
Location
Bristol, UK
Supports
Bristol Rovers
View attachment 20307
That place looks familiar
Perhaps he was trying to do the 92?

0_BRI_PG_170624starmer-306.jpg
 

Indian Dan

‘Absolute calamity!’
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
10,294
Reaction score
3,406
Points
113
Location
Corsham
Supports
Swindon
Ours would have been much higher if we weren’t so shite last season.
 

loz

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2015
Messages
832
Reaction score
356
Points
63
Location
Bratfud
Supports
Citeh
Don't know if Moomin still reads this forum but I'm sure he is over the moon tonight.
 

kieran_vale

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
8,094
Reaction score
2,029
Points
113
Supports
Vale / New England Patriots
Morecambes transfer embargo has been lifted

Got to be somewhat of a relief for Morecambe that for now. Does feel unless there’s a change of owner Derek Adams is going to have to do a manager of the year type job to keep you up though.
 

GTFCfish

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 25, 2015
Messages
14,506
Reaction score
10,391
Points
113
Location
Grimsby
Supports
Grimsby Town
“Successful conclusion” my arse, they expected to be way higher up the ladder by now instead of stagnating in this shite league.
 

kieran_vale

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
8,094
Reaction score
2,029
Points
113
Supports
Vale / New England Patriots
“Successful conclusion” my arse, they expected to be way higher up the ladder by now instead of stagnating in this shite league.

Fair point that. For the wages they’ve paid at this level think they’ve only even come somewhat close to promotion once and the other seasons been bang average. Don’t really even have the infrastructure behind them either so can see them start to circle the drain before long.
 

JJ1990

Active Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2023
Messages
618
Reaction score
246
Points
43
Location
Crewe
Supports
Crewe Alex
They lose money hand over fist. There is no way the Class of 92 has the kind of money needed to sustain significant 7 figure losses. This is all coming to its inevitable conclusion. They'll be out of the league in the next few seasons. Hopefully anyway.
 

Agombar stool

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2015
Messages
5,548
Reaction score
2,209
Points
113
Location
Northamptonshire
Supports
Swindon Town
Like him or loathe him, Gary Neville is one of the biggest commercial developers in Manchester. He probably doesn't have anything like the wealth of Lim, but he offers a different owners skillset.
 

DearneValleyRover

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2015
Messages
4,749
Reaction score
1,394
Points
113
Location
Dearne Valley
Supports
Doncaster Rovers, Sporting Leyland
Well only 5 more days for the Willy waving to start, good luck to all except when playing us :bdick:
 

BigDaveCUFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
3,650
Reaction score
697
Points
113
Supports
Curzon Ashton....and Carlisle
The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.
 

valefan16

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
15,754
Reaction score
2,362
Points
113
Supports
Port Vale
The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.
Do they have a training ground now? I know on one of the TV series they were really struggling with that.
 

OneDecentLester

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2016
Messages
2,326
Reaction score
723
Points
113
Location
Chesterfield
Supports
Chesterfield FC
Four year anniversary today of our club being saved. Would be supporting an AFC Chesterfield or Chesterfield Town if it wasn’t for the trust, so I will be forever grateful to them taking the club on at a time where no one else would touch it with a barge pole!

Four years down the line, we managed to attract one of our best ever managers back to the club, we’ve got local businessmen brothers at the helm with the clubs best interests at heart, record ST sales & back in the football league at last. Been some journey. Dark days under the previous regime beginning to feel like a lifetime ago, thankfully.

 

BigDaveCUFC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2015
Messages
3,650
Reaction score
697
Points
113
Supports
Curzon Ashton....and Carlisle
Do they have a training ground now? I know on one of the TV series they were really struggling with that.

Don’t think so still was in progress due to finding land which is the bigger issue, they were after the rugby league ground which I am assuming has a lot of this stuff there.

That ground would be bloody ridiculous for them, it would be like Darlington the ground is miles out the way with no transport links and holds vastly more than they can attract.

The big problem is they have rose too quickly for their original plans I went to see a Salford game during their first season and that ground was frankly a small wooden stand, some grass banks and a little shed Terrance stand, their fanbase were all mobile phone photo clickers not there for matches but to catch a glance of visiting celebs, it has always just had to rely on money to keep growing because there is no base actual club.

I always thought it said everything when years ago went to their Workington play off final to watch a group of their ‘fans’ behind me being directed by a tv producer on how to shown emotions like ‘worry’ and ‘excitement’ for their cameras because they didn’t show these naturally in a play off final
 

EnglishRed

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2015
Messages
8,054
Reaction score
3,881
Points
113
Location
Flintshire UK
Supports
Wrexham
The Salford experiment changed drastically and they only have themselves to blame it will now collapse.

When the income flower at Salford the long term plan was a professional club for local youth players to play at, proper training facilities and giving local players proper games to develop and move up ladder (always thought it would be a dodgy man United b team)

Then it became all about splashing cash on players and moving up ladder ASAP and it all got ditched.

Plus the issue that Wrexham may have down the line the interest in their tv aspects died a death and different clubs became more interesting so the new group of followers drifted away and crowds are probably where they were in conf north and conference days.

Club now has a ground they don’t want no real facilities and didn’t push local youth while money has dried up and interest dropped……they have problems question will be can they hold onto the precious league place it was losing that really kick started the death of rushden.

Once the novelty value goes then a club settles to a 'natural' level. It'll happen to us at some point im sure. The difference between us and Salford is that we already have a solid fanbase, and we will be left in a better position than where we were with ownership or our own ground and a training facility (hopefully) so should be able to settle back to a decent level. Maybe with more 'normal' ownership which would let us sustain League one or two football quite comfortably.

Salford have never really built up a fanbase and don't really have any infrastructure so when things start to resettle there is a good possibility they slide back down to regional football if they survive at all. Depends how long the class of 92 want to keep absorbing losses.
 

Si Robin

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 25, 2015
Messages
4,618
Reaction score
1,697
Points
113
Location
Tewkesbury
Supports
Cheltenham Town
I tend to use the Rushden and Diamonds comparison with FGR, but they had well over a decade in the Conference before Vince's money and could have potentially kept going at that level.

The Salford and Rushden similarities are far greater though. No real history at a level above regional divisions of non-league (Rushden Town in the Southern League and Salford in the Northern Premier League), then massive influx of cash and meteoric rise up the divisions. No foundation created whatsoever and no real hope of gaining a stronger fanbase.

It's telling that AFC Rushden and Diamonds have stalled at the regional division of the Norther Premier League since re-forming.
 

valefan16

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Messages
15,754
Reaction score
2,362
Points
113
Supports
Port Vale
I tend to use the Rushden and Diamonds comparison with FGR, but they had well over a decade in the Conference before Vince's money and could have potentially kept going at that level.

The Salford and Rushden similarities are far greater though. No real history at a level above regional divisions of non-league (Rushden Town in the Southern League and Salford in the Northern Premier League), then massive influx of cash and meteoric rise up the divisions. No foundation created whatsoever and no real hope of gaining a stronger fanbase.

It's telling that AFC Rushden and Diamonds have stalled at the regional division of the Norther Premier League since re-forming.
Thats the key isn't it, more traditional clubs with bigger histories/fan bases often come back, Wimbledon, Macclesfield on their way, Darlington all be it fairly slowly, Bury likely will when they sort themselves out but clubs like Rushden or Salford would just end up back at their natural level.

I expected Salford to go through to L1 level and possibly above purely on the money at the time they flew up to L2 but guess they just hit their ceiling and not winning every week probably will see their fan base dwindle further, all be it they seem to have actually had some rising in attendances but like on Saturday 1300+ of that is going to be away fans.
 

Less than a mile (WAFC)

Active Member
Joined
Jul 24, 2023
Messages
201
Reaction score
73
Points
28
Supports
Wrexham
Thats the key isn't it, more traditional clubs with bigger histories/fan bases often come back, Wimbledon, Macclesfield on their way, Darlington all be it fairly slowly, Bury likely will when they sort themselves out but clubs like Rushden or Salford would just end up back at their natural level.

I expected Salford to go through to L1 level and possibly above purely on the money at the time they flew up to L2 but guess they just hit their ceiling and not winning every week probably will see their fan base dwindle further, all be it they seem to have actually had some rising in attendances but like on Saturday 1300+ of that is going to be away fans.
Sadly I'm not sure Darlington are going anywhere anytime soon. Didn't they just get relegated from the NLN?

One of the 'at least were not them' teams you'd consider after we'd lose 2-0 to borehamwood or something.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
16,555
Messages
1,221,602
Members
8,504
Latest member
yunus

Latest posts

SITE SPONSORS

W88 W88 trang chu KUBET Thailand
Fun88 12Bet Get top UK casino bonuses for British players in casinos not on GamStop
The best ₤1 minimum deposit casinos UK not on GamStop Find the best new no deposit casino get bonus and play legendary slots Best UK online casinos list 2022
No-Verification.Casino Casinos that accept PayPal Top online casinos
sure.bet
Need help with your academic papers? Customwritings offers high-quality professionals to write essays that deserve an A!
Top