Man City CEO calls for B teams to be allowed into the EFL

[#Beebot]

Exactly, an absolute embarrassment. So much short sighted thinking and presumably not reading the finer details. £250m sounds all well and good but it's an advancement of future TV money, which, as I said earlier today, although an increase in percentage terms, is likely to be a smaller deal because the '6' will take 8 of their games out of the deal and therefore reduce the value of it.

And let's be right, these sort of discussions should be taking place after there's a bailout (I don't partivularly like that word) because we haven't got time for all this faffing about. The PL '6' know how desperate some EFL Club's are and are playing on it. It's so obvious, yet so many Chairman are blind to it.

It's not helpful either when people coming out of the divisional meetings are seemingly lying about the thoughts of others.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1316108473407602691

How on earth do Preston, a club who have finished just outside the playoff places the last couple of years, gain from a proposal that reduces the number of Championship playoff spots?

This is going to happen, isn't it? They've all been brainwashed.

 

[Devon_Lad]

How on earth do Preston, a club who have finished just outside the playoff places the last couple of years, gain from a proposal that reduces the number of Championship playoff spots?

This is going to happen, isn't it? They've all been brainwashed.

Given the rhetoric coming from the FA, I cant see it coming into force anyway.

The tweet is utter nonsense. Both our chairman and Port Vale's have both been on Sky Sports news publicly rejecting these proposals so how can it just be 23 of 24 teams in L2?

 

[Indian Dan]

But it makes no difference if each and every EFL club supports this. The decision will be taken by the 20 PL clubs - it’s their money.

How many PL clubs are going to vote to reduce the league to 18 - thereby losing the income from 2 home games and vastly increasing the chances of getting relegated with no more parachute money.

EFL clubs won’t really be substantially better off as the extra money will, in most cases, just replace what owners put in to keep their club afloat. That’s why it’s attractive to owners - free money in their eyes and hang the consequences.

By the time this deal has worked its magic and destroyed football as we know it they’ll be long gone.

What strings would be acceptable? Or maybe the proposed £250m should just be a one off to stop clubs going bust right now.

 

[Kenneth E End]

I think it’s probably bending the truth to an extent In regards to support in the EFL - they probably want to hear more detailed proposals rather than those leaked through the media. And that’s the right thing to do.

It will be a negotiation and I’m sure when they are dissected line by line there will be some agreement and disagreement.

 

[Trapdoor]

If Peter Risdale is in favour of it, you just know its a bad idea. #corruptprick

This power grab may well be the thing which finally stops me from watching English football. Not even covid has stopped me yet (at least while we are allowed to attend non league games,) but this might just do it.
If this goes through I will go to Germany more regularly.

 

[Kenneth E End]

Confirmation of my figures per The Athletic... it would equate to £758m for EFL clubs and 10% of that to L2 clubs.

The percentage of the total income each league gets more than triples, with the average Championship club seeing its income rise by £15.5 million, League One clubs getting £3.5 million more and League Two clubs enjoying a boost of £2.3 million.

Personally, I'd like to see the distribution in the EFL changed slightly - from the proposed 75 / 15 / 10, to 65 / 22.5 / 12.5.

 

[masi51]

Confirmation of my figures per The Athletic... it would equate to £758m for EFL clubs and 10% of that to L2 clubs.

The percentage of the total income each league gets more than triples, with the average Championship club seeing its income rise by £15.5 million, League One clubs getting £3.5 million more and League Two clubs enjoying a boost of £2.3 million.

Personally, I'd like to see the distribution in the EFL changed slightly - from the proposed 75 / 15 / 10, to 65 / 22.5 / 12.5.

10% of 758m equals 75.8m divided by 24 my basic maths tells me that is a little over 3.1m
15% div 1 teams 4.75m
75% championship app 23m
League 2 teams have the most to lose ie 4 to be relegated from the league.....Now the is no way league 2 clubs will settle on those figures......That makes championship teams as greedy as the so called big 6


How about taking 8m off the championship team giving them 15m each
Give lge 1 clubs a extra 4m giving them ................................................8.75m each
Give lge 2 clubs a extra 3mgiving them...................................................6.1m each
That will leave around 24m spare...2m each to the bottom two teams......Then a sweetner of 10m to the two teams who would not be relegated in any normal year

 

[Kenneth E End]

10% of 758m equals 75.8m divided by 24 my basic maths tells me that is a little over 3.1m
15% div 1 teams 4.75m
75% championship app 23m
League 2 teams have the most to lose ie 4 to be relegated from the league.....Now the is no way league 2 clubs will settle on those figures......That makes championship teams as greedy as the so called big 6

I very much doubt 4 will go down in 1 year - I think it'll be 3 relegations over 2 years.

That said, for too long, teams have been budgeting to finish 22nd in that division - it's time to flush some teams down the U-bend and at the same time increase promotion from the National League.

 

[Trapdoor]

i wouldnt vote for this even if the big 6 personally gave me 100 mil.

 

[Robshep]

i wouldnt vote for this even if the big 6 personally gave me 100 mil.

If one of the leading corporate rescue experts and a top business lawyer both consider this thing to be a bad idea in the long term then i am inclined to listen to what they have to say, regardless of what club they are involved in.

 

[masi51]

i wouldnt vote for this even if the big 6 personally gave me 100 mil.

its not perfect in any way,shape or form......In fact any other time i would agree with you,but i read yesterday 7 clubs are struggling to find wages for the coming months......and no Bolton are not one of them

 

[Indian Dan]

Then you should get no money. You clearly don’t need it.

 

[masi51]

Then you should get no money. You clearly don’t need it.
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[Kenneth E End]

Hatters CEO: Devil will be in the detail of Project Big Picture

Sweet believes 80 per cent of the proposals could be very positive

www.lutontoday.co.uk

Gary Sweet is spot on, again.

 

[Robshep]

Hatters CEO: Devil will be in the detail of Project Big Picture

Sweet believes 80 per cent of the proposals could be very positive

www.lutontoday.co.uk

Gary Sweet is spot on, again.

There are idiots on Merseyside talking about driving out of the area to watch the derby match in pubs. If the fans of those two care that little about the health of other people they will not give a crap about other football clubs. My loathing of both our neighbours deepens daily.

 

[Super_horns]

You can bet there will be mass gatherings in house holds for that one after they have raided the shops for alcohol.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Then you should get no money. You clearly don’t need it.

It's not about money. It's about the long term future of English football. A quick bribe to destroy our footballing pyramid and the EFL?

Then you get no club. You clear don't need one.

 

[Kenneth E End]

It's not about money. It's about the long term future of English football. A quick bribe to destroy our footballing pyramid and the EFL?

Then you get no club. You clear don't need one.

Jeez you're obtuse. I think a lot of fans will say that a lot of the plans are unpalatable, but to demonise and dismiss is not good enough - there are a lot of positives. It is a negotiation. In it's current form, it is a non starter - there will need to be changes to get it accepted.

 

[masi51]

ok i put my point across....some go for it some dont..I understand both sides
I am certain my club will be better off without this deal at this time.
7 clubs are in trouble that is clear and the will almost be others each month after that.
So i have the two posters above saying A dont need money B dont need a club......so i will jog on and say i honestly dont give a fuck

 

[Indian Dan]

You said your club doesn’t need the money. Keep up!

 

[Devon_Lad]

You said your club doesn’t need the money. Keep up!

We don't "need" the money. But what we absolutely do need are for these proposals to be rejected, otherwise football is ruined in this country.

Bribing clubs with owners after a quick buck to ruin our footballing structure? Madness.

No genuine fan could possibly back any of these proposals.

 

[masi51]

You said your club doesn’t need the money. Keep up!

All clubs in lge 2 need money maybe Salford apart......but the fact we paid two charges last week against the club and we are paying 59k settling the hotel again being met monthly tells me wages will be covered

 

[Robshep]

It's not about money. It's about the long term future of English football. A quick bribe to destroy our footballing pyramid and the EFL?

Then you get no club. You clear don't need one.

My god, you really are a vile little piece of turd aren't you.

 

[Luke Imp]

Confirmation of my figures per The Athletic... it would equate to £758m for EFL clubs and 10% of that to L2 clubs.

The percentage of the total income each league gets more than triples, with the average Championship club seeing its income rise by £15.5 million, League One clubs getting £3.5 million more and League Two clubs enjoying a boost of £2.3 million.

Personally, I'd like to see the distribution in the EFL changed slightly - from the proposed 75 / 15 / 10, to 65 / 22.5 / 12.5.

Ludicrous, isn't it? Let's get more money into the EFL but keep the distribution percentages the same and make the gaps between the leagues even bigger than it already is (admittedly L1 and L2 have salary caps). At a time they're trying to close the gap to the PL from the Championship.

The Championship need to bring in salary cap alongside this new funding otherwise the issues we see in that division i.e. losses and stupid wages, aren't going to change. At least at L1 and L2 levels it should lead to cash surpluses and/or facility improvements.

 

[Robshep]

You can bet there will be mass gatherings in house holds for that one after they have raided the shops for alcohol.

Ricky Gervais is always on the look out for new and original comedy writers. I wouldn't bother him if i was you.

 

[Robshep]

ok i put my point across....some go for it some dont..I understand both sides
I am certain my club will be better off without this deal at this time.
7 clubs are in trouble that is clear and the will almost be others each month after that.
So i have the two posters above saying A dont need money B dont need a club......so i will jog on and say i honestly dont give a fuck

As long as my club survives i really do not care what happens to others. Thats the society we now live in so why not embrace it.

 

[Robshep]

We don't "need" the money. But what we absolutely do need are for these proposals to be rejected, otherwise football is ruined in this country.

Bribing clubs with owners after a quick buck to ruin our footballing structure? Madness.

No genuine fan could possibly back any of these proposals.

Its the tory way. Have you now changed your views. Its ok for the NHS to be destoyed but not the football pyramid. Go and seek help.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Its the tory way. Have you now changed your views. Its ok for the NHS to be destoyed but not the football pyramid. Go and seek help.

What the hell are you on about. Try and keep on topic mind you. Im fed up with morons like you trying to attack me over this Govt lmao. If you have a problem with people with opposing views politically happy to sort it over message but stop trying to clog up this thread about unrelated topics like the NHS ffs

 

[Devon_Lad]

As long as my club survives i really do not care what happens to others. Thats the society we now live in so why not embrace it.

You've put 2 and 2 together and got 975.

Nobody will be watching English football in 5 years time if these proposals go through. English football will be dead. Clubs owners wanting to take a quick bribe isn't an acceptable excuse to destroy English football.

 

[Robshep]

What the hell are you on about. Try and keep on topic mind you. In fed up with morons like you trying to attack me over this Govt lmao.

On topic all the time with you because you never stop flapping your gob. You said it was fine if the NHS has to bow to corporate pressure because thats the nature of things. Now you think a similar thing is wrong in football because it affects your nonentity club. Make your mind up where you stand on things. If you cannot do that then shut your mouth.