Man City CEO calls for B teams to be allowed into the EFL

[Robshep]

You've put 2 and 2 together and got 975.

Nobody will be watching English football in 5 years time if these proposals go through. English football will be dead. Clubs owners wanting to take a quick bribe isn't an acceptable excuse to destroy English football.

In a similar way to how the governments of the last 10 years took a deficit and doubled it whilst simultaneously cutting spending do you mean. That strikes me as being either incompetent or guilty of fraud on a massive scale.

 

[Robshep]

What the hell are you on about. Try and keep on topic mind you. Im fed up with morons like you trying to attack me over this Govt lmao. If you have a problem with people with opposing views politically happy to sort it over message but stop trying to clog up this thread about unrelated topics like the NHS ffs

You are the one who started the NHS thing, nobody else. You might not have the intelligence to keep up with your ramblings, but those of us who think you are an idiot are only too happy to remind you of them.

 

[Devon_Lad]

You are the one who started the NHS thing, nobody else. You might not have the intelligence to keep up with your ramblings, but those of us who think you are an idiot are only too happy to remind you of them.

No I didn't. Are you having trouble reading? People compared NHS salaries to footballers. I didnt start the convo. I ended it and we got back on topic before you tried to embarrassingly bring it back up. Stick on topic.

 

[Devon_Lad]

In a similar way to how the governments of the last 10 years took a deficit and doubled it whilst simultaneously cutting spending do you mean. That strikes me as being either incompetent or guilty of fraud on a massive scale.

Doubled the deficit? Jesus christ. Another simpleton who doesn't understand what a deficit and debt is lmao. The deficit hasn't been doubled. Its gone massively down, and we even ran at a surplus for a few Q's.

Spending has gone UP in every single year since 2010.

Seriously stfu. You don't know what you're talking about, if you have a problem with Conservative'a take this to private message and stop ruining this thread. Freak.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Forcing through a deal that benefits only the extremely wealthy by convincing the plebs it is good for them? Where have I heard that one before...

 

[Monkey Tennis]

It's worth noting too that these figures being banded about regarding what the EFL clubs will get are based on the fact that these clubs expect TV revenue to go up by 10% by the time this kicks in. In fact, the opposite is more likely and TV revenue will go down by 10%.

 

[Devon_Lad]

It's worth noting too that these figures being banded about regarding what the EFL clubs will get are based on the fact that these clubs expect TV revenue to go up by 10% by the time this kicks in. In fact, the opposite is more likely and TV revenue will go down by 10%.

Forgetting that clubs are likely to agree their own individual TV deals in future. Im guessing EFL clubs wouldn't be entitled to that?

 

[Robshep]

No I didn't. Are you having trouble reading? People compared NHS salaries to footballers. I didnt start the convo. I ended it and we got back on topic before you tried to embarrassingly bring it back up. Stick on topic.

How many others called the NHS crap. That was you. Its all on here to find and read. Everything you have ever typed. I will get back on topic no problem, when you admit that everything you say is drivel. You contradict yourself with this one, as you do often on any subject.

 

[Robshep]

It's worth noting too that these figures being banded about regarding what the EFL clubs will get are based on the fact that these clubs expect TV revenue to go up by 10% by the time this kicks in. In fact, the opposite is more likely and TV revenue will go down by 10%.

It will be 25% of the crumbs. Hopefully it will be turned down and the so called big 6 will throw their toys out of the pram and sod off to play in a European Super League. It will be nice to see how they all feel when they become the little fish.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Forgetting that clubs are likely to agree their own individual TV deals in future. Im guessing EFL clubs wouldn't be entitled to that?

I mean the one-off "up front" payment - it's being heralded as 1.25 billion or whatever, but it's just their estimate based on what they think the TV money will be at that time. In actuality, it could be a fair chunk lower than that.

 

[Devon_Lad]

How many others called the NHS crap. That was you. Its all on here to find and read. Everything you have ever typed. I will get back on topic no problem, when you admit that everything you say is drivel. You contradict yourself with this one, as you do often on any subject.

Drivel? You're the one who just said the deficit has doubled when its been nearly eradicated under this Govt hahaha, you're out of your league chatting politics clearly. I do think the NHS is crap, but I didnt bring the topic up. Again this has nothing to do with this thread so I won't reply again.

 

[Robshep]

Drivel? You're the one who just said the deficit has doubled when its been nearly eradicated under this Govt hahaha, you're out of your league chatting politics clearly. I do think the NHS is crap, but I didnt bring the topic up. Again this has nothing to do with this thread so I won't reply again.

Good. You could bore the crap out of a deadman.

 

[Robshep]

Drivel? You're the one who just said the deficit has doubled when its been nearly eradicated under this Govt hahaha, you're out of your league chatting politics clearly. I do think the NHS is crap, but I didnt bring the topic up. Again this has nothing to do with this thread so I won't reply again.

Facts tory boy, facts. Not fantasy.

 

[Robshep]

I mean the one-off "up front" payment - it's being heralded as 1.25 billion or whatever, but it's just their estimate based on what they think the TV money will be at that time. In actuality, it could be a fair chunk lower than that.

Did you ever think that you would consider the National League well run back when you got promoted. Shocking here isnt it. No desire to ever go back there but it was fun for a while.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Did you ever think that you would consider the National League well run back when you got promoted. Shocking here isnt it. No desire to ever go back there but it was fun for a while.

The National League is incompetent on a whole other level, so this is actually an improvement! I didn't realise that Parry was so openly corrupt though and how true it was that the EFL couldn't give a shit about its members.

I'm under no illusions that these changes might not even apply to us, as there's a fair chance we'll be relegated before they kick in, but as a football fan, it's so blatantly damaging for the game.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Can people ditch the nhs talk aspect.

My point on that first post about it was simply player wages is thesingle biggest issue with football and has been for years, every single time a chance to grow profit comes players wages rise instead.

with mass increases in tv cash over the years and some money off the prem football here should ‘easily’ have survived this. All clubs should have been building comfy profits for years as they make masses more now than they did in the 80’s and 90’s when income was simply generated at each club.

but nope........each year wages higher and higher at all levels, cash slashed everywhere, all short term and nothing long term and only people ever to benefit were football players and agents.

now here comes the laughable ‘reform’ in easier chuck more cash on it short term the. Look to more self interest........a superb reform.

football had its chance this summer to negotiate players and pfa to a more wage controlled support plan for clubs to balance books and it never bothered.

agree with Devon lad on rejecting it but probably we have very differing views on what we’d do.

hints from some news reports government may possibly take control themselves anyway

 

[Robshep]

The National League is incompetent on a whole other level, so this is actually an improvement! I didn't realise that Parry was so openly corrupt though and how true it was that the EFL couldn't give a shit about its members.

I'm under no illusions that these changes might not even apply to us, as there's a fair chance we'll be relegated before they kick in, but as a football fan, it's so blatantly damaging for the game.

It will affect the game at every level. Except the rich clubs. Parry is a disgrace. There should be a vote of no confidence in him. Today.

 

[Trapdoor]

1.25bn is still peanuts. The professional game in England generated £5.5bn in 2016 (>90% of which was from EPL) and that has increased steadily ever since. What they are offering amounts to less than a single quarter of their earnings.

It it were 50bn it would be a reasonable starting point for negotiations. That would cover about 10 years of support.

 

[Robshep]

Can people ditch the nhs talk aspect.

My point on that first post about it was simply player wages is thesingle biggest issue with football and has been for years, every single time a chance to grow profit comes players wages rise instead.

with mass increases in tv cash over the years and some money off the prem football here should ‘easily’ have survived this. All clubs should have been building comfy profits for years as they make masses more now than they did in the 80’s and 90’s when income was simply generated at each club.

but nope........each year wages higher and higher at all levels, cash slashed everywhere, all short term and nothing long term and only people ever to benefit were football players and agents.

now here comes the laughable ‘reform’ in easier chuck more cash on it short term the. Look to more self interest........a superb reform.

football had its chance this summer to negotiate players and pfa to a more wage controlled support plan for clubs to balance books and it never bothered.

agree with Devon lad on rejecting it but probably we have very differing views on what we’d do.

hints from some news reports government may possibly take control themselves anyway

Not even responding to him any more. Waste of finger skin. The problem with this whole thing is that clubs who solve every issue by throwing money about have forgotten that it has all been caused by throwing money at it. If any club wants to compete they have to gamble. If they want to fix things in a long term way then scrap this EEEP garbage and allow clubs to return to developing their own players without having anybody good stolen. The only problem with the game in this country is the clubs throwing about selfish solutions to fix something they have broken.

 

[Robshep]

The National League is incompetent on a whole other level, so this is actually an improvement! I didn't realise that Parry was so openly corrupt though and how true it was that the EFL couldn't give a shit about its members.

I'm under no illusions that these changes might not even apply to us, as there's a fair chance we'll be relegated before they kick in, but as a football fan, it's so blatantly damaging for the game.

National League was a bit amateurish but this league is 132 years old and acts like it started in january as a school project.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Why do people care about the money? Its a bribe to completely restructure and ruin the EFL and English football in general. No amount of money is acceptable.

 

[dannyc5]

A bribe? I thought it was democratic socialism....?

 

[Robshep]

A bribe? I thought it was democratic socialism....?

Trickle down economics.

 

[Robshep]

A bribe? I thought it was democratic socialism....?

I like cake. If thats what we have to eat i choose battenburg.

 

[Chris FGR]

Why do people care about the money? Its a bribe to completely restructure and ruin the EFL and English football in general. No amount of money is acceptable.

Because it's desperately needed.

EFL clubs could 'disappear within five to six weeks' - Leyton Orient chairman - BBC Sport

Some EFL clubs will "disappear within five to six weeks" unless they get financial support, says Nigel Travis, chairman of League Two Orient.

www.google.co.uk

 

[Devon_Lad]

Because it's desperately needed.

EFL clubs could 'disappear within five to six weeks' - Leyton Orient chairman - BBC Sport

Some EFL clubs will "disappear within five to six weeks" unless they get financial support, says Nigel Travis, chairman of League Two Orient.

www.google.co.uk

Says a totally impartial chairmen... who if gets his way can pocket upwards of £500k

If a few clubs go bust because of this, as sad as it'll be (and they will come back eventually, even if under a new name) it is absolutely a price worth paying to keep English football alive and in its current format. Lower league football will be non existent in the future if this comes in. The EFL trophy is evidence of that.

These proposals need to be vehemently opposed no matter how much they try and bribe us with.

 

[Conker]

They should be securing the short term, then the proper negotiations should start.

 

[Devon_Lad]

A bribe? I thought it was democratic socialism....?

Bribing people is democratic socialism. Without you lot trying to completely ruin this thread again...

What is democratic socialism if its not to bribe people? That is exactly what it is. But I repeat, take this to my private messaging if you really want to discuss this. Otherwise you're just trolling and trying to derail a thread.

 

[Robshep]

Because it's desperately needed.

EFL clubs could 'disappear within five to six weeks' - Leyton Orient chairman - BBC Sport

Some EFL clubs will "disappear within five to six weeks" unless they get financial support, says Nigel Travis, chairman of League Two Orient.

www.google.co.uk

Tranmere Rovers were happy to continue in March under the same circumstances as now. Hardly anybody could afford to do it then so why are they all crying now. Whats changed? Nothing as far as i can tell from my top level virus restricted viewpoint here in sunny Wirral.

 

[Robshep]

Bribing people is democratic socialism. Without you lot trying to completely ruin this thread again...

What is democratic socialism if its not to bribe people? That is exactly what it is. But I repeat, take this to my private messaging if you really want to discuss this. Otherwise you're just trolling and trying to derail a thread.

Maybe people just don't like you and enjoy annoying you. Think on that.