The National League resolution vote

How should the 2020/21 season be resolved

  • Continue until season end, whenever that is

  • Suspend season until fans can attend

  • End season with PPG

  • Null and Void season


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Chief Rocka

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I see Parmenter has resigned from the clown fiesta board

No mea culpa from him, of course, just pointing the finger elsewhere

Funny how he suddenly found his moral compass, this from the fella who was demanding his players take a 20% pay cut at the start of the season or he shuts the club down.
 

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The bottom 8, clearly.
With a handful of NLS teams effectively holding everybody else to ransom by withholding their vote, ensuring their season will carry on, no wonder the lower NL clubs become worried as N&V is the easiest path to avoiding relegation... what a byzantine web of self-interest this whole organisation is.

I'm sure Parmenter won't be the last to resign, and they'll all be pointing the finger at each other. When the NL eventually lurches out of this crisis, I hope it's with a new structure that discourages such a parochial mindset.
 

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15 National League clubs would probably be just enough for a very narrow majority to continue out of all 66 clubs, even if resolution one fails.
 

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With a handful of NLS teams effectively holding everybody else to ransom by withholding their vote, ensuring their season will carry on, no wonder the lower NL clubs become worried as N&V is the easiest path to avoiding relegation... what a byzantine web of self-interest this whole organisation is.

I'm sure Parmenter won't be the last to resign, and they'll all be pointing the finger at each other. When the NL eventually lurches out of this crisis, I hope it's with a new structure that discourages such a parochial mindset.
Yeah we can have Steve Cleeve (Kings Lynn) Marc White (Dorking) Ant Smith (Concord) Mike Goodwin (Chesterfield) and maybe the 2 Darlo posters so they are not alone.
 

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15 National League clubs would probably be just enough for a very narrow majority to continue out of all 66 clubs, even if resolution one fails.

Actually, it probably only needs 12 NL clubs if resolution one fails, because it’s the weird voting system and only 50% (16 votes), with the south’s four votes going to playing on.

Hard to see any path to null and void for step one if that 15 is about right tbh.

The big controversy is going to be whichever of the two regional leagues is forced to either stop or carry on against the wishes of a pretty decisive majority of its clubs.
 

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From The Athletic:

A chairman of a National League club has estimated that around 15 of the 23 clubs in the top division want to keep playing - with #StockportCounty acting as what they describe as “the de facto whip”, rallying clubs to vote against the season being stopped.


Obviously third hand information and supposition, but anyone wanna take a stab at the 8 turncoats who hate football :shut:
Probably not hard to work out. I'd suspect the part time teams however many of them there are. And whoever's in the relegation zone.

I have no doubts the National league will continue. The north and south not so much.

I know we will have voted to carry on. No announcement on that but our owner whilst not a major money man strikes me as the type that's got a rainy day fund stashed away somewhere just in case. Not a bad thing at all. Considering the basket cases that put the old club to the wall
 

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The bottom 8, clearly.

Probably and for the same reason the top 8 want to carry on as they have a sniff of promotion, all swings and roundabouts but it should never have come to this. The national league should have had everyone sign a contract that if you start the season you finish it regardless of funding or other factor everyone knew their virus was coming back over winter. You can’t have a board where clubs have a say, it should be run without that influence.

This league has not developed properly in decades purely because its run by dinosaurs.
 

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Our match at Alty tomorrow has been moved to FC United's ground as the Alty pitch is wrecked.

2 sides who actually want to play football.
 

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From The Athletic:

A chairman of a National League club has estimated that around 15 of the 23 clubs in the top division want to keep playing - with #StockportCounty acting as what they describe as “the de facto whip”, rallying clubs to vote against the season being stopped.


Obviously third hand information and supposition, but anyone wanna take a stab at the 8 turncoats who hate football :shut:
Is it not 22 because Wrexham are shitting out of it? 14 from 22 I assume as I reckon they'd have included Wrexham in the 15.
 

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Is it not 22 because Wrexham are shitting out of it? 14 from 22 I assume as I reckon they'd have included Wrexham in the 15.
The burden on the vote is for those who want null and void. Wrexham abstaining is basically a vote towards playing on.

For e:g it needs 8 clubs to say yes to null and void and not 15 to say no to null and void
 

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The burden on the vote is for those who want null and void. Wrexham abstaining is basically a vote towards playing on.

For e:g it needs 8 clubs to say yes to null and void and not 15 to say no to null and void
Ah yeah makes sense. That's good then, if it was as close as the Notts County fan was thinking above was worried 1 vote abstaining might be a spanner in the works.
 

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After the news that we’re gonna have to go into isolation as a squad again and miss the next 3 games, I’m genuinely at the point of not being completely against scrapping it.... fed up to say the least
 

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Messy, so Dover refuse to play on where does that leave the NL
 

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Dover profited significantly from that grant in Autumn, how can Parmenter have wasted it already
 

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He’s been threatening this for years, long before Covid.
 

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Fair play, impressive not to even hint that he was on the National League board that managed to get us into this mess.
 

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I liked this bit

"with the clear understanding that if crowds did not return the funding would continue"

The only thing that's become clear is that was never the case; if that's how the board understood things then that's where the problem lies. If only there were a prominent NL board member, who's been very vocal about the situation the whole time, that he could point the finger at...
 

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That's rich coming from a team who furlough players so they can buy a new team.
Maybe he meant it with a degree of admiration? "Gosh I wish that magnificent bastard was running my club, imagine the new levels of swindling we could get away with" sort of thing
 

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"...with the clear understanding that if crowds did not return the funding would continue"

I'm assuming that was on the basis of grants being distributed fairly.
 

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I liked this bit

"with the clear understanding that if crowds did not return the funding would continue"

The only thing that's become clear is that was never the case; if that's how the board understood things then that's where the problem lies. If only there were a prominent NL board member, who's been very vocal about the situation the whole time, that he could point the finger at...
That would suggest that the NL Board is more incompetent than BoJo`s bozos. Close run thing, but my money is still on Johnson`s clowns promising one format then denying it. Otherwise, why would the season have ever started. Nobody at this level wants long term loan debt.
 

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That would suggest that the NL Board is more incompetent than BoJo`s bozos. Close run thing, but my money is still on Johnson`s clowns promising one format then denying it. Otherwise, why would the season have ever started. Nobody at this level wants long term loan debt.

The DCMS and the civil servants who assist with decisions like this are quite different to the Johnson government. I trust them a lot more than the NL.
 

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Yes, there is no way the Civil Service promised the National League grants then reneged on their words. I did find it odd how the DCMS packages offered to other sports were based on loans yet we were going to get grants as if we were special.
 

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Yes, there is no way the Civil Service promised the National League grants then reneged on their words. I did find it odd how the DCMS packages offered to other sports were based on loans yet we were going to get grants as if we were special.
We ARE special, football is the NATIONAL sport, religion and obsession.
 

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