Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[Jockney]

What's the finances like at Millwall nowadays Jockney? I ask because, after watching both play off games, you would, with all respect, struggle in the Championship with that side as I'm sure you know already. Would you have the £££ to make a couple of decent signings if you win the PO's?

I don't know how that side will adjust. All things going well, it is going to be an excellent side in 12 months to two years' time. Every one said we wouldn't be good enough the last time we came up, that Swindon looked by far the better equipped to play football at this level, and we finished 9th that season so I tend to take everyone's opinion with a pinch of salt.

I think we will stay up if we go up this season, but I can see us struggling in the slightly longer-term, obviously. It is the ultimate fate of clubs like Preston, Barnsley, Bristol City and ourselves without considerable investment.

 

[Jockney]

honestly it is huge and you won't know what hit you when you get up there.

PNE made a few decent signings and had a experienced manager that the reason they done alright.

Extremely difficult to do well, not so difficult to get by. People need to start qualifying statements like 'The gap is huge,' because it starts to sound like inferiority complex BS after a while.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

Eh? What am I missing?

Like I said to Charlie Adam's agent earlier, Flint was voted POTS.

Flint was voted for the whole no no no business and his lad status, he has Toblerone feet, a bad temper could of easily been facing a long term ban for punching players in the face, ball comes to him and he just Ave it away
Gets a few goals but isn't the great he made out to be.

 

[Ciderup]

honestly it is huge and you won't know what hit you when you get up there.

PNE made a few decent signings and had a experienced manager that the reason they done alright.

I don't disagree at all. The other thing is that PNE came up with a very good and settled defence whereas MK and ourselves were happy to score more to gain promotion. Our back 3, which was more than good enough in L1, was easily blown away at this level and we had to change mid season.
If you have a VERY good defence and add a few of a certain quality, you can survive but that's about it.
It's a tough step up, really tough.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

Extremely difficult to do well, not so difficult to get by. People need to start qualifying statements like 'The gap is huge,' because it starts to sound like inferiority complex BS after a while.

I'm sure Mk Don fans will say the same

 

[JJH]

I don't know how that side will adjust. All things going well, it is going to be an excellent side in 12 months to two years' time. Every one said we wouldn't be good enough the last time we came up, that Swindon looked by far the better equipped to play football at this level, and we finished 9th that season so I tend to take everyone's opinion with a pinch of salt.

I think we will stay up if we go up this season, but I can see us struggling in the slightly longer-term, obviously. It is the ultimate fate of clubs like Preston, Barnsley, Bristol City and ourselves without considerable investment.

Um....

Our owner is a multi-billionaire. He was chucking around £9m bids here there and everywhere last summer. We have the financial backing.

 

[Jockney]

I'm sure Mk Don fans will say the same

Didn't say they'd all find it easy, just that it isn't that hard. Karl Robinson is not exactly the most pragmatic manager in the world...

 

[Jockney]

Um....

Our owner is a multi-billionaire. He was chucking around £9m bids here there and everywhere last summer. We have the financial backing.

Never said you didn't, just inc'd you in that list because those clubs are all roughly of a similar size (in any meaningful sense, anyway) and are a useful comparison point for next season.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

I don't disagree at all. The other thing is that PNE came up with a very good and settled defence whereas MK and ourselves were happy to score more to gain promotion. Our back 3, which was more than good enough in L1, was easily blown away at this level and we had to change mid season.
If you have a VERY good defence and add a few of a certain quality, you can survive but that's about it.
It's a tough step up, really tough.

Them getting Cunningham was also a massive boost for them.

Also made me relies how much Smith & JET done during those months

 

[Ciderup]

I don't know how that side will adjust. All things going well, it is going to be an excellent side in 12 months to two years' time. Every one said we wouldn't be good enough the last time we came up, that Swindon looked by far the better equipped to play football at this level, and we finished 9th that season so I tend to take everyone's opinion with a pinch of salt.

I think we will stay up if we go up this season, but I can see us struggling in the slightly longer-term, obviously. It is the ultimate fate of clubs like Preston, Barnsley, Bristol City and ourselves without considerable investment.

As mentioned by my fellow red, we DO have the financial power to compete up here and a new stadium to boot but this isn't about us.
While watching the PO games against Bradford, I thought Millwall were extremely direct when I expected Bradford to be more like that.
Can you survive playing that way? Do you always play that way? I don't know. I wish you well in the final regardless as I do Barnsley.

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Last five seasons

2010/11 Southampton, Brighton, Posh - all survived
2011/12 Charlton, Wednesday, Huddersfield - all survived
2012/13 Bournemouth, Doncaster, Yeovil - Yeovil and Donny relegated
2013/14 Wolves, Rotherham, Brentford - all survived
2014/15 Bristol C, MK Dons, Preston - MK Dons

3/15 relegated at the first attempt.

 

[Jockney]

As mentioned by my fellow red, we DO have the financial power to compete up here and a new stadium to boot but this isn't about us.

See what I said before.

While watching the PO games against Bradford, I thought Millwall were extremely direct when I expected Bradford to be more like that.
Can you survive playing that way? Do you always play that way? I don't know. I wish you well in the final regardless as I do Barnsley.

We don't have any sort of playing style. Under Harris, it's much as it was with Jackett: we're pragmatic and play to our strengths, which at the moment is the Morison-Gregory partnership. Mostly we've been a counter-attacking side. Best GD in the division behind Wigan and the 3rd highest goalscorers overall, I think.

 

[Jockney]

Last five seasons

2010/11 Southampton, Brighton, Posh - all survived
2011/12 Charlton, Wednesday, Huddersfield - all survived
2012/13 Bournemouth, Doncaster, Yeovil - Yeovil and Donny relegated
2013/14 Wolves, Rotherham, Doncaster - all survived
2014/15 Bristol C, MK Dons, Preston - MK Dons

3/15 relegated at the first attempt.

Exactly. The data five years previous to that is similar, too.

The 'straight back down unless you replace your side' catechism is woefully inaccurate. Longer term, yes, but it ain't all that to survive at this level. MK Dons fucked it up and Bristol City made harder work of it than they should have -- probably because they didn't sack Cotterill sooner.

 

[Ciderup]

We don't have any sort of playing style. Under Harris, it's much as it was with Jackett: we're pragmatic and play to our strengths, which at the moment is the Morison-Gregory partnership. Mostly we've been a counter-attacking side. Best GD in the division behind Wigan and the 3rd highest goalscorers overall, I think.

I'll watch the final with interest then Jockney. I've nothing against Millwall at all but, on the showings of the semi's, I fancy Barnsley to win. No disrespect meant.

 

[Jockney]

I'll watch the final with interest then Jockney. I've nothing against Millwall at all but, on the showings of the semi's, I fancy Barnsley to win. No disrespect meant.

I do, too.

But I think that if we do win, you'll probably be even less impressed.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

Last five seasons

2010/11 Southampton, Brighton, Posh - all survived
2011/12 Charlton, Wednesday, Huddersfield - all survived
2012/13 Bournemouth, Doncaster, Yeovil - Yeovil and Donny relegated
2013/14 Wolves, Rotherham, Doncaster - all survived
2014/15 Bristol C, MK Dons, Preston - MK Dons

3/15 relegated at the first attempt.

You got Donny promoted 2 years in a row

 

[NorthernSoul]

The gulf between The Championship and League 1 isn't that big.

The only reason Bristol City struggled is because they only started the season with about 14 registered full time players, a ridiculous situation that cost them, Cotterill isn't a manager for The Championship either. Preston just kept a decent sized squad with a few additions and have an experienced manager who's been at The Championship before and as easy as that they finish top half. MK Dons lost several key players and didn't replace them and were significantly weaker.

It's an intense league and you need a decent sized squad.

We've a very young squad with lots of potential. Warnock signing permanently, a right back or two a centre half, a centre midfielder hopefully Jordi Gomez returning and a back up striker and I'd be happy with that. Had we not have had a slow start due to making 20+ signings we'd have got more than the 100 points we got last time we were in League One. Our current squad is slightly better than the last one we got promoted with and finished 7th in our first season in The Championship and 2nd the following season. It will be a lot tougher this time around with Newcastle and the money that some of the teams at the top have spent, but we're more than capable of finishing top half.

 

[Ciderup]

I do, too.

But I think that if we do win, you'll probably be even less impressed.

Not at all, if you win, fair play to you.
I'm not belittling Millwall in any way but stating that I found the step up a real surprise after 2 seasons in L1, a definite step up. I also said, on the showings of the PO semi's (just the semi's) that I feel Barnsley are the better side but I've only seen each team twice. Please don't think I am criticising Millwall as I don't know enough about your side to comment.

 

[Jockney]

Not at all, if you win, fair play to you.
I'm not belittling Millwall in any way but stating that I found the step up a real surprise after 2 seasons in L1, a definite step up. I also said, on the showings of the PO semi's (just the semi's) that I feel Barnsley are the better side but I've only seen each team twice. Please don't think I am criticising Millwall as I don't know enough about your side to comment.

Not any of that, I just suspect that we are going to play a very defensive/counter-attacking game on Sunday and even if we do win Barnsley will have had more shots & possession: something that isn't going to look particularly impressive to anyone. In fact, I reckon we might be accused of being spoilers.

 

[Ciderup]

Not any of that, I just suspect that we are going to play a very defensive/counter-attacking game on Sunday and even if we do win Barnsley will have had more shots & possession: something that isn't going to look particularly impressive to anyone. In fact, I reckon we might be accused of being spoilers.

That would make sense TBH. Judging by the four games, you're not going to out play them so that could well work. It should be a very good game. 40K 'Wall by all accounts (heard it on talk sport) so you'll certainly be loud!!

 

[MagpieBee]

Last five seasons

2010/11 Southampton, Brighton, Posh - all survived
2011/12 Charlton, Wednesday, Huddersfield - all survived
2012/13 Bournemouth, Doncaster, Yeovil - Yeovil and Donny relegated
2013/14 Wolves, Rotherham, Brentford - all survived
2014/15 Bristol C, MK Dons, Preston - MK Dons

3/15 relegated at the first attempt.

I forgot we were still in League 1...

 

[JoshBCFC]

Eh? What am I missing?

Like I said to Charlie Adam's agent earlier, Flint was voted POTS.

He's not bad at all, but look at the clean sheets and goals he got in League One and compare it to the Championship, baring in mind Flint has been one of our better players this season it's one of the best examples of the gulf between League One and the Championship.

 

[SMH]

In the last nine seasons, only one team has ever gone straight back down after finishing champions of League One the season before (Doncaster Rovers). I don't want to jinx things but I'm sure we'll be fine.

Our current squad is slightly better than the last one we got promoted with and finished 7th in our first season in The Championship and 2nd the following season.

I have to disagree with you on that point. That team had players like Leighton Baines, Jimmy Bullard and Lee McCullogh who all went on to become established Premier League players. There's no evidence to suggest that the likes Will Grigg and Max Power could cut it in the Championship let alone the Premier League. Although we live in hope. Our season depends on a few aspects, recruitment, staying clear of injuries, keeping a solid defence, Will Grigg scoring goals in the Championship etc. Although as pessimistic a fan as I normally am, to be honest I'm quietly confident.

 

[Madejski]

Barnsley battered us, but they were better than any side I've seen us face in League 1, especially at home, for a good 2-3 years. That includes last year's Preston, Bristol City in the home league game etc. The gulf isn't that massive to the bottom half of the Championship. The top end of the table is where the whopping gap comes IMO. In terms of structure, pay, wages, expenditure, all round.

We finished right towards the bottom of the league (relegation form for 7 months), probably fewer than 10 places in the league system above you, yet comfortably beat you 4-0 in the Cup. The gap is reasonably big.

 

[mpmbee]

Rumours that QPR are after Jake Bidwell from us.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

Rumours that QPR are after Jake Bidwell from us.

Why was Dallas sold?

 

[Walkley_Owl]

Why was Dallas sold?

JR had found out Bobby wasn't dead.

 

[MagpieBee]

Why was Dallas sold?

One year left on his contract and figured he could get more money at Leeds.

Shame, great player

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

One year left on his contract and figured he could get more money at Leeds.

Shame, great player

1.5 was far to cheap for him and he is a great player may of done himself a set back joining leeds though

 

[MagpieBee]

1.5 was far to cheap for him and he is a great player may of done himself a set back joining leeds though

I think he could well be worth more in time, but £1.5m was a decent price when we'd lose him for nothing a year later. Will always be remembered fondly for his double against Fulham at the cottage, and for massive improvements in skill over the years.