Stickied Transfer Rumours & Confirmed Deals Thread 2024/25

[Magic]

We'll probably sell him on for peanuts at some point or let his contract expire. Good player, although if he hadn't scored a few towards the end of the season, I'm sure many would have said he's not good enough.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

I think he could well be worth more in time, but £1.5m was a decent price when we'd lose him for nothing a year later. Will always be remembered fondly for his double against Fulham at the cottage, and for massive improvements in skill over the years.

Where does your mob get the talent from?

They've had a few quality players come through

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

We'll probably sell him on for peanuts at some point or let his contract expire. Good player, although if he hadn't scored a few towards the end of the season, I'm sure many would have said he's not good enough.

Then they would be talking absolute b*****.

Players like Dallas are luxury and you need to enjoy them whilst you can.

 

[PrestonCha]

JR had found out Bobby wasn't dead.

Too young to get that, most of these c***.

 

[MagpieBee]

QPR apparently want Bidwell for £3m, not a terrible deal apart from Everton have a 50% sell on clause. Think he's a great left back for this level, and would love to keep him, but equally trust the club to find a good replacement for a fraction of the cost.

Speaking of which, we're linked with Walsall's Rico Henry for £1m. Would be very happy with him as a replacement.

Also, Sawyers and Egan deals getting closer, should be announced next week.

 

[JustinQPR]

It's a strange one. LB is probably the last place we need strengthening in, and a RB is a priority.

Still, if he's half as successful as Rowlands was for us, I won't be complaining.

 

[MagpieBee]

It's a strange one. LB is probably the last place we need strengthening in, and a RB is a priority.

Still, if he's half as successful as Rowlands was for us, I won't be complaining.

Boo Martin Rowlands. Boo.

 

[Saddlerrad]

QPR apparently want Bidwell for £3m, not a terrible deal apart from Everton have a 50% sell on clause. Think he's a great left back for this level, and would love to keep him, but equally trust the club to find a good replacement for a fraction of the cost.

Speaking of which, we're linked with Walsall's Rico Henry for £1m. Would be very happy with him as a replacement.

Also, Sawyers and Egan deals getting closer, should be announced next week.

I would be absolutely amazed if A) Henry left for Brentford B) It was anything less than £2-3m and C) That's not just poor journalism.

Sawyers will be a done deal though, easily. He is Smith's love child and Sawyers wants out.

 

[City169]

We've signed Jack Challis from Birminghams u21 squad.

 

[MagpieBee]

I would be absolutely amazed if A) Henry left for Brentford B) It was anything less than £2-3m and C) That's not just poor journalism.

Sawyers will be a done deal though, easily. He is Smith's love child and Sawyers wants out.

Is Henry actually *that* good? £2-3m would apparently get you Bidwell who has over 200 games under his belt at L1 and Championship level, and is also a very good prospect (still only 22 I think)

£2-3m seems an awful lot for a Left Back out of League 1. Odubajo was only £1m and seems like a very fair comparison?

 

[Saddlerrad]

Is Henry actually *that* good? £2-3m would apparently get you Bidwell who has over 200 games under his belt at L1 and Championship level, and is also a very good prospect (still only 22 I think)

£2-3m seems an awful lot for a Left Back out of League 1. Odubajo was only £1m and seems like a very fair comparison?

Not yet, but he will be. He's only 18, got 5 years left on his remaining contract and virtually every scout in the entire of the land has been to watch him this time. I know Spurs and United have sent scouts more than once, Spurs 4-5 times. Also he has made this impact in his first pro-season. He's english. You pay for potential at that age and someone will be willing to take a punt on a player at that age, who still has 4-5 years to 'make himself' and if it doesn't work out, it's pocket change for someone in the top flight. Walsall won't sell anyone to Smith either, that's pretty much factual, certainly not for anything less than 'over the odds'.

No comparison to Alli from the Dons in terms of stats/what he has produced. But Henry is of a similar age to when he made his name, he scored goals and created chances, but the important thing was his potential/age and quality he possessed. If Spurs are taking £5m+ chances, plus a shit load of add on packages for him. Then something like half of that for an 18 year old, really wouldn't surprise me.

 

[MagpieBee]

Not yet, but he will be. He's only 18, got 5 years left on his remaining contract and virtually every scout in the entire of the land has been to watch him this time. I know Spurs and United have sent scouts more than once, Spurs 4-5 times. Also he has made this impact in his first pro-season. He's english. You pay for potential at that age and someone will be willing to take a punt on a player at that age, who still has 4-5 years to 'make himself' and if it doesn't work out, it's pocket change for someone in the top flight. Walsall won't sell anyone to Smith either, that's pretty much factual, certainly not for anything less than 'over the odds'.

No comparison to Alli from the Dons in terms of stats/what he has produced. But Henry is of a similar age to when he made his name, he scored goals and created chances, but the important thing was his potential/age and quality he possessed. If Spurs are taking £5m+ chances, plus a shit load of add on packages for him. Then something like half of that for an 18 year old, really wouldn't surprise me.

But, we are talking about a lot of money for a left back. Back when Bale was sold by Southampton it was only for £5m, this valuation looks a little high to me? I'd suggest you'd accept £1.5-2m pretty readily.

Also didn't realise there was that much bad blood with Smith! I thought his departure was on relatively good terms? Obviously mistaken.

 

[JoshBCFC]

We've signed Jack Challis from Birminghams u21 squad.

We are going up!

 

[JLK]

Not yet, but he will be. He's only 18, got 5 years left on his remaining contract and virtually every scout in the entire of the land has been to watch him this time. I know Spurs and United have sent scouts more than once, Spurs 4-5 times. Also he has made this impact in his first pro-season. He's english. You pay for potential at that age and someone will be willing to take a punt on a player at that age, who still has 4-5 years to 'make himself' and if it doesn't work out, it's pocket change for someone in the top flight. Walsall won't sell anyone to Smith either, that's pretty much factual, certainly not for anything less than 'over the odds'.

No comparison to Alli from the Dons in terms of stats/what he has produced. But Henry is of a similar age to when he made his name, he scored goals and created chances, but the important thing was his potential/age and quality he possessed. If Spurs are taking £5m+ chances, plus a shit load of add on packages for him. Then something like half of that for an 18 year old, really wouldn't surprise me.

Sounds pretty similar to what Orient fans were saying before we signed Odubajo. From what I've seen of him (only a handful of games) he's not quite as good as Moses. Close though.

 

[Saddlerrad]

But, we are talking about a lot of money for a left back. Back when Bale was sold by Southampton it was only for £5m, this valuation looks a little high to me? I'd suggest you'd accept £1.5-2m pretty readily.

Also didn't realise there was that much bad blood with Smith! I thought his departure was on relatively good terms? Obviously mistaken.

I know what you are saying completely, but young English players have gone up in value and I don't think it's necessarily how good he currently is, it's what potential he has (which is great) and the fact so much attention has been placed on him. Obviously it's only paper talk, but when Premier League scouts come around as frequently as they have for him and he holds a reputation such as this - http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...d-Rico-Henry-Ashley-Cole-Transfer-News-Gossip
that prices become inflated.


No bad will from me towards Smith, totally understand why he moved, the opportunity was a very good one and nobody could begrudge him of that, other fans aren't pleased on the timing of it and from what I gather, Bonser wasn't very happy with the 'abandon ship' at the first REAL chance attitude Smith appeared to have when he left, especially considering the board gave him a 3 year deal on the back of us not winning in 16 games when he was really on the ropes and after all his time/work at Walsall he left just as things were really starting to click for him.

Sounds pretty similar to what Orient fans were saying before we signed Odubajo. From what I've seen of him (only a handful of games) he's not quite as good as Moses. Close though.

Possibly, as I say. It's not the fact I don't think he would join Brentford, I think he, the club and his agent know the interest from the league above is quite large so they may want to play on that. Currently we are in as good a financial state as we have been since the days we were in the Championship and with him being the crown jewels, the attention from above and the 5 years left on his deal - we would be mugs to sell for £1m right now.

 

[JoshBCFC]

The Bristol Post is reporting that Sam Allardyce is considering a swap deal for Adam Matthews and Aden Flint.

 

[JJH]

The Bristol Post is reporting that Sam Allardyce is considering a swap deal for Adam Matthews and Aden Flint.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

Stockhausen is someone I like to see moved on this summer

 

[Ciderup]

The Bristol Post is reporting that Sam Allardyce is considering a swap deal for Adam Matthews and Aden Flint.

Not that I think Stockhausen knows much more than the rest of us, there would have to be some serious £££££ added for little Lee to even contemplate selling Aden. The supporters love the big man and it would be an incredible gamble on LJ's part. IF it happened and things go badly, LJ would be crucified!
On the other hand, IF Aden wanted to go and try the Prem with Sunderland, well sat on the bench in the Prem, we can't really stop him.

 

[toshj]

that prices become inflated.

Price only genuinely become inflated when there's more than one suitor. of course, Walsall don't have to sell to anyone unless they feel they've hit the spot in terms of transfer value, but at the same time a lot of it comes down to how much the player wants out - as we found out with Tarkowski this season; sometimes the club is held to ransom by a seemingly happy player wanting out.

I don't really know whether transfer fees have changed dramatically over the past two seasons, but there was an almost identical amount of press coverage/big club interest surrounding Odubajo at Orient - Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham were all apparently fighting each other off to sign him. Orient fans were talking up the potential price of the player and decrying anyone not agreeing with them (not saying this is the case with you guys). Ultimately we were the only club to show any serious interest in him and the £2m-£3m he was being touted for turned out to be a £1m transfer.

One thing I did wonder about this transfer - didn't Smith cut his teeth running the youth setup at Walsall? If so, would he have a particularly strong relationship with Henry? This may be a driving factor in any potential move.

I've no idea whether this will happen or not, or what the monies involved might be, but we'd likely step away early on from any transfer which was going to cost too much as we've been remarkably good at getting the best deal possible on both incoming and outgoing transfer recently - as opposed to yesteryear when we were constantly taken advantage of!

 

[SaddlerJonny]

Not a chance in hell that Rico would be let go for less than £2m.

The lad is a class act at 18 years of age. He's fast, a goal threat, English, has represented England U19's, came all the way through our youth system, a key player in our first team, we don't need to sell. Why would we sell for anywhere near £1m?

Don't have to listen to or believe me though, listen to your gaffer...
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/walsall-fc/2015/11/21/walsall-wont-sell-rico-henry-on-the-cheap/

 

[toshj]

Not a chance in hell that Rico would be let go for less than £2m.

The lad is a class act at 18 years of age. He's fast, a goal threat, English, has represented England U19's, came all the way through our youth system, a key player in our first team, we don't need to sell. Why would we sell for anywhere near £1m?

Don't have to listen to or believe me though, listen to your gaffer...
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/walsall-fc/2015/11/21/walsall-wont-sell-rico-henry-on-the-cheap/

It's strange. Odubajo was a class act at 19 years of age. He was fast, a goal threat, English, went on to represent England U20's, came all the way through Orient's youth system, was a key player in their first team (with twice the amount of appearances), they didn't need to sell. Why would they sell for £1m?

Don't have to listen to or believe me though, listen to their then gaffer...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...nt-chief-warns-Spurs-about-Moses-Odubajo.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...cheap-Tottenham-eye-Leyton-Orient-winger.html
http://www.squawka.com/news/tottenham-battle-west-ham-for-leyton-orient-winger-moses-odubajo/127382

Strangely, the Sun article is almost identical to the piece on Henry. Like I said, I've no idea what's going to happen with this one, but there are eerie similarities to Odubajo's and Henry's situations

 

[City169]

I think if a club has a player with big potential, who is a big part of the first team and 5 years on the contract then they'd be foolish to settle for a million.

 

[Madejski]

First signing of the Summer for us. 22 year old defender Danzell Gravenberch from FC Dordrecht. Can't say I know too much about him.. was on trial with us towards the end of the season.

Also a 17 year old Bosnian we signed in January (dubbed the Bosnian Messi) has left after just five months to join Lille. Apparently was never going to be likely to get a work permit here.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

More like 32 than 22

 

[Magic]

Is he bollocks 22. Looks like Wes Morgan's old man.

 

[SaddlerJonny]

It's strange. Odubajo was a class act at 19 years of age. He was fast, a goal threat, English, went on to represent England U20's, came all the way through Orient's youth system, was a key player in their first team (with twice the amount of appearances), they didn't need to sell. Why would they sell for £1m?

Don't have to listen to or believe me though, listen to their then gaffer...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...nt-chief-warns-Spurs-about-Moses-Odubajo.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...cheap-Tottenham-eye-Leyton-Orient-winger.html
http://www.squawka.com/news/tottenham-battle-west-ham-for-leyton-orient-winger-moses-odubajo/127382

Strangely, the Sun article is almost identical to the piece on Henry. Like I said, I've no idea what's going to happen with this one, but there are eerie similarities to Odubajo's and Henry's situations

Sure they are similar, but that shouldn't have much of an effect on what price we'll sell for. Different clubs, different players and personalities. Case precedent matters in law, but as we can all tell from the rapidly changing prices in football, doesn't make much of an impact here.

 

[toshj]

Sure they are similar, but that shouldn't have much of an effect on what price we'll sell for. Different clubs, different players and personalities. Case precedent matters in law, but as we can all tell from the rapidly changing prices in football, doesn't make much of an impact here.

True - I suppose it'll come down to how hard either side pushes and the role Henry would play in all of it. Recently we've had a huge success for ourselves, and for players' previous clubs, in securing significant transfer fees. For instance, we signed Andre Gray from Luton Town for £600,000 but the total fee they've now received has been somewhere around £2.5m through sell ons. Oldham would have seen a strong figure in transfer sell ons too on the Tarkowski deal if they'd not sold us the clause when they were skint last season.

I wonder if Walsall would be tempted by something like a £1m + 25% sell + £X upon promotion for a player like Henry. Our last two large sales have been for £9.5m and c.£6m, and such a sell on % for Walsall could mean a total deal for Henry north of £2.5m. This would allow them to make use of £1m in next season's budget but also retain a financial concern in the future. I do think more and more clubs realise that this method is optimum, particularly when fees commanded by in demand Championship players are far more significant than League One players.

 

[SMH]

Latest link is Mark Duffy on a free. Again I'm underwhelmed, yes he did well last season for Burton but he struggled in the Championship for Doncaster and Rowett obviously didn't think he was good enough for Birmingham. He's also 30 years old. Maybe I'm being harsh but it just feels like we're setting up to just consolidate and not show any ambition with the players we're being linked with.

 

[markwwfc1992]

Maybe I'm being harsh but it just feels like we're setting up to just consolidate and not show any ambition with the players we're being linked with.

Welcome to our hell.