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Latest link is Mark Duffy on a free. Again I'm underwhelmed, yes he did well last season for Burton but he struggled in the Championship for Doncaster and Rowett obviously didn't think he was good enough for Birmingham. He's also 30 years old. Maybe I'm being harsh but it just feels like we're setting up to just consolidate and not show any ambition with the players we're being linked with.

Have your parachute payments stopped yet? If so then for a club like Wigan with your gates you wont be spending millions will you unless you have another sugar daddy owner.
 

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Have your parachute payments stopped yet? If so then for a club like Wigan with your gates you wont be spending millions will you unless you have another sugar daddy owner.
No they haven't. I don't have a problem with us not spending millions, our best signings last season were largely out of contract players. My problem is we currently seem to be going after free agents like Duffy with no sell on value who have struggled in this league previously.
 

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Wagstaff released. He wanted to get first team football which is fair enough, but he was a good squad player.

Worryingly we only have 17 senior players, and 1 of those is El-Abd who has been shipped out on loans for the last 2 years.
 

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Think back to that game against Middlesbrough at home the season city were relegated.

The only way that defence of bates & wood gate could of been worse was if El Abd was in it.

I tell you what CharlieAdamsNo1Fan you are really pushing it now mate.

Also we never had woodgate.

#VivaElAbd
 

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I was working with Will Grigg's father today, ans he said that it's likely his son will move to Celtic this summer.
 

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Grigg is an odd one. Clearly had some talent when he was with us, but I don't think he fit the formation, and was largely played out of position.

Don't regret selling him at all, but we could probably have got a bit more than the £1.5m we did get
 

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Did you ask why Grigg won't play in the championship?

He likes Wigan, and is happy there. Although since Brendan Rogers has gone to Celtic he has contacted Wigan and Will's agent. This happened a few days back and now he's hoping a move materialises.

He has also rejected Birmingham this summer too (the club he was at for 8 years at academy level).
 

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If we were to sell Grigg it would have to be a head turning offer, I'd imagine in excess of 5m. Suits our system perfectly and goalscorers aren't cheap, who knows how he would adapt in The Championship but he's certainly got the talent to do very well and is surrounded by technically good, creative players. We're in a very healthy financial position and don't need to sell.

Moving to Scotland would be a downward step from The Championship which is a far stronger more competitive league. You do well in The Championship and either you get promoted with a side and get the chance to play in the Premier League or a Premier League side signs you. Move to Scotland and you're basically putting yourself in Semi retirement mode.

If the link is true, then it seems strange the fact that Rodgers seemingly doesn't rate Leigh Griffiths despite the fact he's obviously suited at Celtic and is free scoring, spending the bulk of your transfer budget in a position already sorted would be a strange managerial choice by Rodgers.
 

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Doubt Will Grigg would cost 5m to be honest.. 2 maybe, 3 absolute maximum.

There is nothing concrete about it, just the word of his dad. He is happy to stay at Wigan if nothing happened, and has already turned down advances from Birmingham. The only move that would tempt him is Celtic, and apparently Brendan Rogers has been in contact.
 

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2-3m would be a fair evaluation, however he's a crucial player and we don't need to sell, so 5m+ would be needed for us to even consider, if Grigg were to stay and to adapt well to The Championship then his value would sky rocket. Britt Assombalonga went for 5m rising to 8m when he hadn't been proven higher than League One. Jordan Rhodes 8m for a player not playing higher than this level, Ross McCormack 11m? It's crazy how much a striker can be sold for from this league if they do well. Stays and scores 10 goals by Christmas and his value probably doubles.

If what you're saying is true though, then there would be fair reasons to report both Birmingham City and Celtic for attempting to tap up a player as neither have been granted permission to speak.
 

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If we were to sell Grigg it would have to be a head turning offer, I'd imagine in excess of 5m. Suits our system perfectly and goalscorers aren't cheap, who knows how he would adapt in The Championship but he's certainly got the talent to do very well and is surrounded by technically good, creative players. We're in a very healthy financial position and don't need to sell.

Moving to Scotland would be a downward step from The Championship which is a far stronger more competitive league. You do well in The Championship and either you get promoted with a side and get the chance to play in the Premier League or a Premier League side signs you. Move to Scotland and you're basically putting yourself in Semi retirement mode.

If the link is true, then it seems strange the fact that Rodgers seemingly doesn't rate Leigh Griffiths despite the fact he's obviously suited at Celtic and is free scoring, spending the bulk of your transfer budget in a position already sorted would be a strange managerial choice by Rodgers.
£5m for a striker that has only scored goals in L1?

Bollocks, if he wants to move you won't get more than £2m for him.
 

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Doubt Will Grigg would cost 5m to be honest.. 2 maybe, 3 absolute maximum.

There is nothing concrete about it, just the word of his dad. He is happy to stay at Wigan if nothing happened, and has already turned down advances from Birmingham. The only move that would tempt him is Celtic, and apparently Brendan Rogers has been in contact.

Not a chance he goes for 3 million. He's scored 50 goals in his last 93 games and is now a full International. Plus you've got the strikers premium price that exists in the modern transfer window. I can understand Celtic going for him, he could easily have the effect that Hooper had on them a few years back. We paid 1m for him, can't see us taking only a 2m profit on him after he's just scored 28 goals in a season.

Realistically someone will need to throw an Assombalonga like bid at us if they want to sign him. While we have parachute payments we don't need to sell. If he scores goals in the first half of next season, a desperate Premier League club will throw silly money at us in January like Bournemouth did with Afobe and then we'd probably sell.
 
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Not a chance he goes for 3 million. He's scored 50 goals in his last 93 games and is now a full International. Plus you've got the strikers premium price that exists in the modern transfer window. I can understand Celtic going for him, he could easily have the effect that Hooper had on them a few years.

Realistically someone will need to throw an Assombalonga like bid at us if they want to sign him. While we have parachute payments we don't need to sell. If he scores goals in the first half of next season, a desperate Premier League club will throw silly money at us in January like Bournemouth did with Afobe and then we'd probably sell.
Bournemouth weren't desperate, they were pretty much safe by then.
 

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Bournemouth weren't desperate, they were pretty much safe by then.
I wouldn't class three points off the bottom three as pretty much safe. But he scored on his debut when they beat Norwich and scored the winner away at Palace. Expensive, but money well spent.
 

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Thing is though all of Will Grigg's goals have been in L1, and has never proven himself in the Championship. It's hard to make comparisons to Benik Afobe and such because he scored a lot of goals in the Championship before he went to Bournemouth. Players like Joe Garner, Kieran Agard, etc have all recently scored for fun in L1, but have struggled with the step up.

I think 2-3m is a fair valuation of Will Grigg now, whether he can score for fun in the Championship is another question.
 

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I wouldn't class three points off the bottom three as pretty much safe. But he scored on his debut when they beat Norwich and scored the winner away at Palace. Expensive, but money well spent.
Oh didn't realize they were so close to the drop zone at the time. Fair enough.
 

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At the end of the day, I think Sharpe won't sell and will bank on him scoring goals in the Championship. If he does make the step up like Assombalonga did we're quids in. But for every Assombalonga there's a Joe Garner or Eoin Doyle so it's a risky strategy especially if Celtic make a concrete offer. We'll see what happens!
 

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Personally I don't think Grigg is as good as Garner and he has struggled this season, admittedly with very little help or service. Think the biggest difference from L1 to the Championship is the quality of the defenders.
 

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IMO, It's less about technical ability at this level than it is about movement and chance conversion. Looking at strikers like Andre Gray and Ross McCormack, they seem to have the complete technical reportoire but what really sets them apart is that they pull defenders this way and that even when they don't have the ball. They always seem to find a pocket of space behind the defenders and they anticipate things that even other perfectly good strikers do not. I think this is why Garner and others (Simon Cox another that springs to mind) have struggled, or at least not had the same impact, at this level in recent years. Grigg will do well at this level. He has very good awareness.
 

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Burnley will probably have a few cut-price bargains after getting promoted - for starters, I cannot see striker Lukas Jutkiewicz, winger Michael Kightly, central defender Kevin Long or left-back Danny Lafferty getting much (if ANY) game time.

Although a Dyche favourite, Scott Arfield might also be a casualty now if we sign some decent midfielders. Hard-worker who weighs in with a fair few goals so ideal for the Championship (maybe Huddersfield might fancy him?).
 
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Burnley will probably have a few cut-price bargains after getting promoted - for starters, I cannot see striker Lukas Jutkiewicz, winger Michael Kightly, central defender Kevin Long or left-back Danny Lafferty getting much (if ANY) game time.

Although a Dyche favourite, Scott Arfield might also be a casualty now if we sign some decent midfielders. Hard-worker who weighs in with a fair few goals so ideal for the Championship (maybe Huddersfield might fancy him?).

I wouldn't mind Scott Arfield.
 

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Grigg won't have the pace and strength to play in the Championship, certainly not the pace anyway I don't think. I can imagine him being marked out of games by a couple of bruisers and then found out when he doesn't have the pace of movement to create something from nothing. Suppose it depends if Wigan strengthen enough around him to create him lots of chances as poaching is his best ability IMO.
 

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Just saying but we've had Ajose, Sharp and Morison here in recent years and none of them were good enough at this level. Don't know enough about Grigg but it is a big step up.
 

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