w/e Saturday 27th January

[Optipez]

Shy did you go for Maynard? I’ve never heard of him and looking at his record at Wealdstone isn’t great. Am I missing something?

He's a continuity pick in many ways. He's a coach, thoughtful and very stats orientated. If we went for Flynn or Gary Bowyer or Steve Cottrell as FGR look like doing you're buying a reputation and past success but recent failure. Maynard has no failures on his CV.
Maynard took Hemel Hempstead up in his first season and was coach at Wealdstone when they went up but not in charge. He also went to Billericay to work for the nutter who's name I can't remember when they were going to buy their way to the Premier league.
They're all a gamble but we are a very well structured club which gives a coach a chance as they get funding, a backroom staff to largely sort out recruitment and the Bros seem to give their men time which doesn't always happen.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

From an outsider it just seems a high risk appointment - especially for a club on the way up

It is high risk from an outsiders view. So was Burchnall, and so was Williams and both were upgrades on their predecessors. Both also earned the club compensation from clubs in higher leagues.

We just have to trust the Super Computer that has done us so well. The owners are due a failure like most clubs have the majority of the time, as long as we don't go for a known product that doesn't play our distinct style and won't adhere to the recruitment policy I'm happy. If we appointed a Flynn, Artell or Alexander I would have been gutted.

 

[Optipez]

It is high risk from an outsiders view. So was Burchnall, and so was Williams and both were upgrades on their predecessors. Both also earned the club compensation from clubs in higher leagues.

We just have to trust the Super Computer that has done us so well. The owners are due a failure like most clubs have the majority of the time, as long as we don't go for a known product that doesn't play our distinct style and won't adhere to the recruitment policy I'm happy. If we appointed a Flynn, Artell or Alexander I would have been gutted.

No way was Burchnall an upgrade on Ardley Viking. We got very lucky that FGR were mad enough to pay compensation for him after he did the bare minimum expected with the resources at hand.

 

[Indian Dan]

Hope it works out for him/you.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

No way was Burchnall an upgrade on Ardley Viking. We got very lucky that FGR were mad enough to pay compensation for him after he did the bare minimum expected with the resources at hand.

To some he was, to others he was. To me he was. Ardley got further in playoffs clearly but also failed, played better football, was more attacking and entertaining, scored more goals. He setup Williams tenure, better than Ardley could.

Agree we were very lucky that FGR paid compensation for him, but they did. Would anyone pay compensation for Ardley? We both know the answer to that question.

To me IB was small upgrade on NA and LW huge upgrade on IB. Hard to see SM being another upgrade but he has a chance. I want the risk and unknown, not the known who won't get us promoted.

 

[Meadow]

He's a continuity pick in many ways. He's a coach, thoughtful and very stats orientated. If we went for Flynn or Gary Bowyer or Steve Cottrell as FGR look like doing you're buying a reputation and past success but recent failure. Maynard has no failures on his CV.
Maynard took Hemel Hempstead up in his first season and was coach at Wealdstone when they went up but not in charge. He also went to Billericay to work for the nutter who's name I can't remember when they were going to buy their way to the Premier league.
They're all a gamble but we are a very well structured club which gives a coach a chance as they get funding, a backroom staff to largely sort out recruitment and the Bros seem to give their men time which doesn't always happen.

Glenn Tamplin?

 

[Conker]

Bloody tough start for him isn’t it.

 

[Optipez]

Glenn Tamplin?

That's him. A laugh to watch him from a distance but a disaster zone close up.

 

[Optipez]

Bloody tough start for him isn’t it.

It is although he perhaps dodged a bullet with Stockport being postponed, not that Barrow looks an easy start.

 

[jacobncfc]

From an outsider it just seems a high risk appointment - especially for a club on the way up

We’re only ever going to make high risk appointments - our last two have been equally unknown and have moved on for about £1m in compensation combined.

Maynard has done a good job at Wealdstone on limited resources, but the main reason he’s got the Notts job is that he plays the (uniqueish still at this level) 3-6-1 formation we do and the same attacking/possession style of football. Rightly or wrongly it doesn’t matter how many promotions someone has or what they’ve done previously, our shortlist will have consisted of people who meet those two non-negotiables.

 

[jacobncfc]

No way was Burchnall an upgrade on Ardley Viking. We got very lucky that FGR were mad enough to pay compensation for him after he did the bare minimum expected with the resources at hand.

Burchnall didn’t have the minerals to be the main man and is much more suited to the coaching jobs he’s gone back into at Anderlecht and now Wolves, but he was an important part of a successful couple of years. Set up the formation and style that Williams built on. We did get lucky that FGR came in, though, we’d never have sacked him and he’d never have got 107 points last season or kept his bottle for the play-offs.

 

[Boz]

Rovers at Grimsby, not one of our happier hunting grounds. though given my dire away record following Rovers, have actually seen us win in Cleethorpes.

Adkins got the tactics wrong v Milton Keynes and was arguably too cautious in the Barrow game preceding. Hopefully we'll revert to the approach that led to the December winning streak and if we do, coupled with how Grimsby have been set up under Artell, there is potential for another high-scoring game.

Saunders definitely out, questions over the fitness of Dennis and Lee O'Connor, think some of the regulars will have benefitted from the weekend postponement. With some tough games coming up, probably need to get something from this one.

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

I do think Maynard is a much bigger leap into the unknown than Burchnall or Williams. It’s his style as much as his record that has got him the job, but there can’t be many EFL managers who’ve literally had to give up their day job to take the role.

The most obvious comparison is the Cowleys but they did take over a club on its arse still in non league.

 

[Meadow]

Fortunately for you Al Hamadi will still be at the Asia cup. Our other forward Bugiel might be back for the game depending on how Lebanon get on tomorrow. We've brought a couple of player's in so you never know. I'd expect you to get a point at least.

Likewise. We're on damage limitation until Omar and Ali return from international duty. I'm keeping an eye on the Asia Cup and hoping that Lebanon and Iraq fail to get through. Likely for Lebanon but Iraq are good enough to get all the way to the final.

Not expecting much from either match in the coming week unless the newbies turn up trumps.

 

[Chris FGR]

Burchnall didn’t have the minerals to be the main man and is much more suited to the coaching jobs he’s gone back into at Anderlecht and now Wolves, but he was an important part of a successful couple of years. Set up the formation and style that Williams built on. We did get lucky that FGR came in, though, we’d never have sacked him and he’d never have got 107 points last season or kept his bottle for the play-offs.

Burchnall had no idea how to set up a defence. Absolutely laughable that we paid compensation for him. Still he did last 28 games, which is longer then any of our 3 managers since.

 

[Son of Cod]

Massive match in the battle for 18th at Blundell Park.

I know him as a manager due to our time there and I think it's baffling. Never coached in a full time set up in his whole life. Now he's the head coach of Notts County.

He didn't even get Wealdstone up, the guy at Barnet did.

Yeah, we only played them twice but they were very much just get in your faces and outrun you. Hard to play against but he doesn't to seem to fit in with Notts' style at all going off those few games I saw. Perhaps the plan is to tighten up, or probably more likely were missing something. I haven't really read the manager thread so apologies if we're going over old ground.

 

[northstandexile]

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I think you need to proof read before posting. You have just copied and pasted stuff . Stags haven’t played Sutton yet.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

He's a risk, he's high risk! He was part time FFS

 

[Son of Cod]

If we appointed a Flynn, Artell or Alexander I would have been gutted.

Don't really get the comparison with Artell and Alexander or even Flynn. Artell has had one job prior to us, been out the game for a while and turned down several roles. Jury is definitely still out on his appointment at Grimsby but it was far from a merry-go-round one. If it fails, it will fail due to being overly ambitious.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

That's ok.

I just don't see Artell getting Grimsby promoted during his time there. I could of course be wrong but that's my prediction.

With Alexander and Flynn I think a L2 club knows what they are getting, and I don't want that. That was my point, I don't want the albeit less risky known product.

 

[Ellis]

He's a risk, he's high risk! He was part time FFS

This is the key bit. It might work but in my opinion it's certainly not going to in the short term so is effectively writing off this season. It's going to take him a while to adapt to being a full-time manager and to adjust his coaching sessions for fulltime. Difference is huge. Think Warnock if he was willing would have been the better appointment and a sign of owners being pragmatic rather than philosophical. Get Warnock for 12-18 months, probably get you promoted and suddenly you have a dirge of options at league 1 level who can play a similar brand of football as Williamson - hopefully with better defending.

Williamson would have been perfect for them but MK Dons have got in there earlier.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Agreed Williamson would be most Notts fans choice if still at Gateshead and I have no doubt he would have jumped at the chance but alas the timings didn't work out.

We don't really do Short Term appointments, Burchnall and Williams certainly weren't it's not in the owners DNA. He will given time by then, it's the fickle fans within the fanbase that might not. But **** em they know diddly compared to the Bros.

 

[Son of Cod]

With Alexander and Flynn I think a L2 club knows what they are getting, and I don't want that. That was my point, I don't want the albeit less risky known product.

Yeah, I understood that was your point. Putting Artell in that bracket is what I was disagreeing with.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Cool.

He was just another example that sprung to mind. Part Time Stuart is far riskier than Strange Dave.

 

[joethegill]

MK Dons away for us - on paper it should be a decent game with 7th v 8th but I expect it'll be a bit of a dirge. Would probably be alright with a point.

 

[Son of Cod]

Cool.

He was just another example that sprung to mind. Part Time Stuart is far riskier than Strange Dave.

Didn't realise I was entering into a risk off.

 

[AdamStag]

Didn't realise I was entering into a risk off.

Dodgy dave or mystery manager sounds like some crap tv show.

 

[EnglishRed]

Dodgy dave or mystery manager sounds like some crap tv show.

Aren't those two of the Chasers?

 

[Casey]

Wealdstone. That's North London way, Middlesex. Yeah I didn't know either.

One time bank of non league.

Had a psycho full back there before he got into the full time ranks and became a bit of a legend for another Nottingham team.

Casey

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

If you are from Nottingham you know that the electrician played for both Wealdstone and Coventry City before playing for F*rest and England. You aren't allowed not to know.