The Relegation Thread

[JimJams]

I think Puel has realised the error of his ways at Saints. So had he kept his job there he probably would have done poorly in a second season, however if he returned he'd do a better (more entertaining anyway) job.
He was fucking dire at Saints but we've been pretty attack minded under him. Only gripe from some are his ever changing lineups, but for me he's got to figure out the players, only one of which is his signing, and how they fit into his system. Also he's progressing the younger players well, which I think was a priority in his appointment.

 

[HarvSFC]

The changing line-ups never stop, unfortunately.

 

[Super_horns]

Arsenal have their Europa Quarter final between games against Stoke and Southampton which might handy for those 2 sides.

Then again didn't help us on Sunday !

 

[AnkleBiter]

We have them at home on the final day, the final would be 3 days later, so I'm really hoping they avoid Atletico and get to the final!

 

[Leewilson]

8 games to go. Most teams will be targeting 4 wins to survive. Who will get them?

West Brom (they need to win 7 out of 8 realistically)
Bournemouth (A)
Burnley (H)
Swansea (H)
United (A)
Liverpool (H)
Newcastle (A)
Spurs (H)
Palace (A)
Will they do it? Not a prayer

Stoke (Need 4 or 5 wins)
Everton (H)
Arsenal (A)
Spurs (H)
West Ham (A)
Burnley (H)
Liverpool (A)
Palace (H)
Swansea (A)
Will they do it? No. They'll rue too many draws against sides around them.

Palace (Need 4 or 5 wins)
Huddersfield (A)
Liverpool (H)
Bournemouth (A)
Brighton (H)
Watford (A)
Leicester (H)
Stoke (A)
West Brom (H)
Will they do it? Yes, just!

Southampton (need 4 wins)
West Ham (A)
Arsenal (A)
Chelsea (H)
Leicester (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Everton (A)
City (H)
Swansea (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? It'll go to the last day for them.

West Ham (3-4 wins)
Southampton (H)
Chelsea (A)
Stoke (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)
Leicester (A)
Everton (H)
United (H) TBA
Will they do it? Need at least a win from their next 2 home games or they're gone.

Huddersfield (3 wins)
Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
Brighton (A)
Watford (H)
Chelsea (A)
Everton (H)
City (A)
Arsenal (H)
Will they do it? Plucky enough to scrape it. Need a cushion by final 2 games.

Swansea (3 wins)
United (A)
West Brom (A)
Everton (H)
City (A)
Chelsea (H)
Bournemouth (A)
Stoke (H)
Southampton (H) (TBA)
Will they do it? Yes, but right to the wire.

Newcastle (3 wins)
Huddersfield (H)
Leicester (A)
Arsenal (H)
Everton (A)
West Brom (H)
Watford (A)
Chelsea (H)
Spurs (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? Should be fine.

Bournemouth (2 wins and a draw)
West Brom (H)
Watford (A)
Palace (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (H)
Southampton (A)
Swansea (H)
Burnley (A)
Will they do it: No problem

Brighton (2 wins)
Leicester (H)
Huddersfield (H)
Palace (A)
Spurs (H)
Burnley (A)
United (H)
Liverpool (A)
City (A) TBA
Will they do it: Would like it secured in the next couple or could be a nervous ending.

 

[epic73]

Swansea (3 wins)
United (A)
West Brom (A)
Swansea (H)

Swansea-Swansea should be an exciting one.

 

[AnkleBiter]

Hard to see Stoke getting out of it now.

We chose a terrible time to put in one of our worst performances under Wagner. Truly terrible.

We're kinda relying on Southampton and/or West Ham not sorting their shit out.

 

[mistermagic]

I don't think Saints have actually been in the relegation zone all season?

They were 18th on 3 occasions.

Still awfully tight at the bottom. My gut feeling is that West Brom, Stoke and Huddersfield will go down. Pretty sure on the first 2 but the 3rd could be virtually anyone from 11th.

 

[epic73]

Think it'll be West Brom, Stoke, and one of West Ham, Southampton, and Swansea

 

[Pagnell]

Please be West Ham. Not because I dislike West Ham particularly, but because of Moyes.

 

[mistermagic]

Please be West Ham. Not because I dislike West Ham particularly, but because of Moyes.

Am I the only one who thinks that he's doing a better job than I expected?

 

[Leewilson]

Am I the only one who thinks that he's doing a better job than I expected?

Considering all the shit going on behind the scenes and the lack of January signings, I think he's done well so far.

 

[DarkSithLord]

I believe (and hope) the current bottom three will drop

 

[G.B]

a good weekend for us with every result working in our favour.

look at our goal difference compared to the other teams in the relegation scrap. i wonder if that dopey cunt gary neville has figured out why we didn't let city smash us 7-0 yet. probably not. essentially 8 points clear of the drop now, we should be ok from here.

 

[Leewilson]

Lets' update.

8 games to go. Most teams will be targeting 4 wins to survive. Who will get them?
First update: 6-7 games left.

West Brom (they need to win 7 out of 8 realistically)
Bournemouth (A) LOST
Burnley (H) LOST
Swansea (H)
United (A)
Liverpool (H)
Newcastle (A)
Spurs (H)
Palace (A)
Will they do it? Not a prayer
Update: They're gone

Stoke (Need 4 or 5 wins)
Everton (H) LOST
Arsenal (A) LOST
Spurs (H)
West Ham (A)
Burnley (H)
Liverpool (A)
Palace (H)
Swansea (A)
Will they do it? No. They'll rue too many draws against sides around them.
Update: Going to need an upset somewhere or they'll be cut adrift

Palace (Need 4 or 5 wins)
Huddersfield (A) WON
Liverpool (H) LOST
Bournemouth (A)
Brighton (H)
Watford (A)
Leicester (H)
Stoke (A)
West Brom (H)
Will they do it? Yes, just!
Update: Don't help themselves by losing games they play well in, but others being poor should see them fine, just.

Southampton (need 4 wins)
West Ham (A) LOST
Arsenal (A)
Chelsea (H)
Leicester (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Everton (A)
City (H)
Swansea (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? It'll go to the last day for them.
Update: Still think they'll have a go in the last 4-5 games but may be too late.

West Ham (3-4 wins)
Southampton (H) WON
Chelsea (A)
Stoke (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)
Leicester (A)
Everton (H)
United (H) TBA
Will they do it? Need at least a win from their next 2 home games or they're gone.
Update: Massive win today. Tough run in but they have another 2 wins in them.

Huddersfield (3 wins)
Palace (H) LOST
Newcastle (A) LOST
Brighton (A)
Watford (H)
Chelsea (A)
Everton (H)
City (A)
Arsenal (H)
Will they do it? Plucky enough to scrape it. Need a cushion by final 2 games.
Update: Lost form. In big trouble now. Have to win in their next 2 or they're gone. Brighton match is season defining.

Swansea (3 wins)
United (A) LOST
West Brom (A)
Everton (H)
City (A)
Chelsea (H)
Bournemouth (A)
Stoke (H)
Southampton (H) (TBA)
Will they do it? Yes, but right to the wire.
Update: Think they have enough to grit out a few wins in the last 7.

Newcastle (3 wins)
Huddersfield (H) WON
Leicester (A)
Arsenal (H)
Everton (A)
West Brom (H)
Watford (A)
Chelsea (H)
Spurs (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? Should be fine.
Update: Nearly there. Barring a collapse, no worries.

Bournemouth (2 wins and a draw)
West Brom (H) WON
Watford (A) DREW
Palace (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (H)
Southampton (A)
Swansea (H)
Burnley (A)
Will they do it: No problem
Update: They're fine.

Brighton (2 wins)
Leicester (H) LOST
Huddersfield (H)
Palace (A)
Spurs (H)
Burnley (A)
United (H)
Liverpool (A)
City (A) TBA
Will they do it: Would like it secured in the next couple or could be a nervous ending.
Update: Could have badly done with taking something today looking at their run in. The Huddersfield game is huge. Loser will be in massive trouble.

 

[Super_horns]

Not counting us then !

Cheers

Think Saints will go now and Huddersfield if they don't beat us/Brighton .

 

[AnkleBiter]

"Have to win our next two", oh please.
If we get 4 more points then Saints need to get another 7 (Stoke even more), are they gonna do that with those fixtures? I highly doubt it.
Miracles happen but the bottom 3 are in crisis. No goals for us against Swansea, Palace or Newcastle is really poor and has certainly put us as the most likely to go down outside the bottom 3, but one more win (which has to come from Brighton Watford or Everton surely) and a point (Arsenal at home on the final day?!) and we'll be fine.




Cue Stoke winning at the Emirates tomorrow...

 

[Jamie_SFC]

I put a fiver on us to go down in June at 25/1.

Easy money.

 

[Leewilson]

"Have to win our next two", oh please.
If we get 4 more points then Saints need to get another 7 (Stoke even more), are they gonna do that with those fixtures? I highly doubt it.
Miracles happen but the bottom 3 are in crisis. No goals for us against Swansea, Palace or Newcastle is really poor and has certainly put us as the most likely to go down outside the bottom 3, but one more win (which has to come from Brighton Watford or Everton surely) and a point (Arsenal at home on the final day?!) and we'll be fine.




Cue Stoke winning at the Emirates tomorrow...

Have to win IN their next 2. Don’t get grumpy. The relegation battle always brings silly results. No one knows for who yet, hence why I’m looking at points right now. Can reassess when it gets to 4 left.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Can anyone make a case for any of the current bottom three getting out of it. Think Huddersfield will be like Watford last season

 

[Super_horns]

Well if Huddersfield lose their next 6 games then sadly think unlike us they will go down as Stoke will get points somewhere.

 

[Vale park Josh]

Albion, Huddersfield and Southampton to go !

 

[G.B]

another good weekend so far with everything going in our favour again. i think you can just about remove us from your run in list lee.

 

[Pagnell]

Yup, Newcastle now 10 points above danger. Can't see them being involved now. Still hoping Benitez tells Buster Bloodvessel that he's off without a decent investment this summer.

 

[G.B]

i hope buster bloodvessel tells us he's off this summer.

 

[Super_horns]

Looks like Stoke were unlucky yesterday and could have got something with better finishing.

Got some "winnable games" to come so would not rule them out if they can find the net .

 

[Dave-Vale]

Stoke’s major problem is that they can’t score because they failed to bring in a decent striker in the summer and then in January.

Expect them to lose against West Ham and I’m hoping Arnautovic scores to hammer one of the final nails in the Stoke Prem coffin.

 

[Abertawe]

i think stoke are done - there isn't the stomach about the club to stay up - if they had their siege bearpit mentality I'd give them a chance but most of the supporters are arguing amongst each other and the team is made up of past it players and bottlejobs except for a few eggs like allen.

how did zouma end up at chelsea btw - he's garbage

 

[Leewilson]

First update: 6-7 games left.
Second update: 5-6 games left

West Brom 21
Bournemouth (A) LOST
Burnley (H) LOST
Swansea (H) DRAW
United (A)
Liverpool (H)
Newcastle (A)
Spurs (H)
Palace (A)
Will they do it? Not a prayer
Update: They're gone
Update2: Still gone

Stoke 27
Everton (H) LOST
Arsenal (A) LOST
Spurs (H) LOST
West Ham (A)
Burnley (H)
Liverpool (A)
Palace (H)
Swansea (A)
Will they do it? No. They'll rue too many draws against sides around them.
Update: Going to need an upset somewhere or they'll be cut adrift
Update2: Keep losing tight games. Have to win of the next 2 to have any chance.

Southampton 28
West Ham (A) LOST
Arsenal (A) LOST
Chelsea (H)
Leicester (A)
Bournemouth (H)
Everton (A)
City (H)
Swansea (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? It'll go to the last day for them.
Update: Still think they'll have a go in the last 4-5 games but may be too late.
Update2: Time is running out. 3 wins needed. Not sure from where.

Palace 31
Huddersfield (A) WON
Liverpool (H) LOST
Bournemouth (A) DRAW
Brighton (H)
Watford (A)
Leicester (H)
Stoke (A)
West Brom (H)
Will they do it? Yes, just!
Update: Don't help themselves by losing games they play well in, but others being poor should see them fine, just.
Update2: Just can’t pull away from it. Should do over the coming games

Huddersfield 32
Palace (H) LOST
Newcastle (A) LOST
Brighton (A) DRAW
Watford (H)
Chelsea (A)
Everton (H)
City (A)
Arsenal (H)
Will they do it? Plucky enough to scrape it. Need a cushion by final 2 games.
Update: Lost form. In big trouble now. Have to win in their next 2 or they're gone. Brighton match is season defining.
Update2: Watford is a must win or else they’re going to need an upset from somewhere.

Swansea 32
United (A) LOST
West Brom (A) DRAW
Everton (H)
City (A)
Chelsea (H)
Bournemouth (A)
Stoke (H)
Southampton (H) (TBA)
Will they do it? Yes, but right to the wire.
Update: Think they have enough to grit out a few wins in the last 7.
Update2: Missed a big chance at the weekend. Going down to the final 3 games for them.

West Ham 34
Southampton (H) WON
Chelsea (A) DRAW
Stoke (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)
Leicester (A)
Everton (H)
United (H) TBA
Will they do it? Need at least a win from their next 2 home games or they're gone.
Update: Massive win today. Tough run in but they have another 2 wins in them.
Update2: A win against Stoke would all but keep them up. Defeat puts them back in it.

Brighton 35
Leicester (H) LOST
Huddersfield (H) DRAW
Palace (A)
Spurs (H)
Burnley (A)
United (H)
Liverpool (A)
City (A) TBA
Will they do it: Would like it secured in the next couple or could be a nervous ending.
Update: Could have badly done with taking something today looking at their run in. The Huddersfield game is huge. Loser will be in massive trouble.
Update2: I think 37 gets you safe. Need one hard fought win from somewhere to do it.

Watford 37
Update: Thought I should add them in although they’ll scrape up to 40 to end the season.

Newcastle 38
Huddersfield (H) WON
Leicester (A) WON
Arsenal (H)
Everton (A)
West Brom (H)
Watford (A)
Chelsea (H)
Spurs (A) (TBA)
Will they do it? Should be fine.
Update: Nearly there. Barring a collapse, no worries.
Update: SAFE

Bournemouth 38
West Brom (H) WON
Watford (A) DREW
Palace (H) DREW
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (H)
Southampton (A)
Swansea (H)
Burnley (A)
Will they do it: No problem
Update: They're fine.
Update 2: SAFE

 

[Super_horns]

Southampton 1-0 up.

Going to put big pressure on a lot of teams if they hold on.​